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The 6.5 Creedmore is very good at punching holes in a targets. It does have a slight problem in putting down game. Not enough mass. A 6.8 SPC will do a better job.

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I had an interesting failure in my AR9 pistol this afternoon. I had a 9x18 Mac shell casing slip by my QA when reloading. It got sized and loaded as a 9x19 Lugar round. The AR9 has a tight enough tolerance it would not go into battery when the Mac round hit the receiver. The ejector paw did not have a good grab on it and it bounced around inside the receiver. it lodged in a recess in the top of the receiver jamming the bolt for both forward and rearward travel.

I was able to get it out when I disassembled it at home but during my fight with it at the range I cracked the tang on my bolt carrier handle. I can pick one of those up for about $15 but I see the upper receiver has too much open space in the top of the receiver that can allow for this type of jam.

I purchased my upper as a pre-assembled upper as it was about $90 cheaper than what I could put together. It came with a forward assist and dust cover - both are not needed with this bolt configuration. I am thinking about getting an upper receiver that does not have the FA or dust cover and swap everything over after I fill in the void inside the receiver to prevent possible jams like I had today.

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Well, I decided today is finally time to get an M1 Garand.

I was at the surplus store and along with a couple other things, I bought a surplus M1 garand bayonet. I can get a James River Armory M14, 686, the romanian AK, and that henry big boy 357 any day of the week; provided I have the money for it. The M1s... not so much.

I'm going to get my documents headed for the CMP on monday and join in on the Garand Collectors Association and then when my next paycheck rolls around, I'm getting a field grade M1.

The other guns will take a back seat for a bit.

Something I'm also considering buying is a 4x32 Trijicon ACOG. Would someone help me justify the price of that thing? I want one but I'm having trouble taking the plunge.

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Not sure on the ACOG, but it'd be really cool. Good deal on the Garand, i like mine despite having never fired it (i'm bad)

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You've never fired yours? Blasphemy! You need to send it to me PRONTO for decontamination and restoration.

Oh, and I'm going to get the Schuster gas plug for it, only I see there's a two and four port version. Not sure if there's any significant difference between the two.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/412046/schuster-dcm-adjustable-gas-plug-with-wrench-wwii-style-m1-garand-steel-parkerized

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Haha, you don't want to know how many guns i have that i've still not got round to firing :( It's pretty sad.

Also, head on over to garandgear.com - i recommend their gas plug instead, the data isn't explicitly linked in all the right places on their site, but it's solid and available.

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Something I'm also considering buying is a 4x32 Trijicon ACOG. Would someone help me justify the price of that thing? I want one but I'm having trouble taking the plunge.
While ACOGs are nice, another 4x red dot will do the same thing. At only 4x, the glass doesn't have to be the "best of the best". Vortex makes 3x (spitfire?) that seems pretty nice at 1/4 of the cost of an ACOG. If you're going for looks, Bushnell makes a red dot that's a wanna be ACOG but I think it's only a 1x.

For an ideal AR build with high quality stuff on it, if I had the money I'd get an ACOG. I can't justify it though. I have a Vortex Strikefire II (1x) that has red and green dot capability and it's actually pretty nice. I think they make it in a 2x as well.

ACOGs are awesome, if you have the money I say go for it! They look and perform great.

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ACOGs are very durable. I had one on my Bushmaster but I found the 4x was not enough scope. I dropped a 3-9x50 wideview on it and was much happier with it.

I sold the ACOG to finance my AR9. Hindsight is 20/20. The ACOG would have been perfect for the AR9 pistol.

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I don't plan on reaching out past 50 yards with my ARs on a regular basis, so I think a 4x would be fine for me. The farthest I plan on shooting is 100 yards.

I might do it after the Garand. Maybe, I don't know yet. I know that now will be easy to drop 1k on a scope rather than later.

Eh, since I'm getting the M1, I think I might forget about the James River Armory Rockola M14 and use the cash for that rifle on the scope. Who knows, we'll see.

Speaking of the M1, I just bought 20 of the enbloc clips from Sarco INC for 1.25 a piece. That plus shipping was 30.95. I figure 20 should be enough, considering how cheap they are (compared to AR, AK, and other mags) and how they only hold eight. I might get more later.

Also, I bought a set of Trijicon night sights for my Beretta. Went to have them installed, only they weren't drop in as I expected. I did some thinking and I've decided to send the slide and sights to Trijicon to have them install their sights on my pistol. I really want them on my carry gun and if anyone is going to screw up the sights, I want it to be the guys that made them, lol.

Speaking of night sights, I also bought another set of trijicon tritium sights for one of my AR-15s. I can't decide if I want to put them on Project Vietnam or my Windham, affectionately known as "Wendy".

I'd like to stay period correct, or close to it, on Project Vietnam and so far I can't find anything that either supports or shuts down the idea of tritium sights being in use in Vietnam.

They did exist at the time, as I know they were on the Galil, and that went into service in '72, there towards the end of Vietnam, but I don't think the Galil actually wound up in Vietnam. I don't know, I'm not a historian. I made a thread about this topic on AR15.com but never got a bite.

Oh, and I did get two surplus M16 slings. One of them went on Project Vietnam to replace the butlercreek sling.

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My tritium sights came in today and I decided to install them on Project Vietnam.

I did some research (not anything too deep) and I can reasonably say the Galil did not appear in Vietnam, or any significant amount of them at least, but I do know that tritium sights did exist at the time.

I could not find any information to support that the M16 had tritium sights nor could I find anything to denounce that idea. In my mind I'm looking at it as "Plausible, but unlikely".

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I finally go around to working on the AR-9. I decided it needed a full cleaning in addition to replacing the charging handle. This is the first deep clean and it has just over 1100 rounds through it. Since it is a blow-back design it runs very dirty.

I pulled the drop in trigger out and ran cleaning solution through it until it ran clean. There was a lot of gunk that came out. When I was putting it back together I somehow misplaced one of the pin screws for the trigger. After 2 hours of cleaning and looking for it I finished putting the gun back together.

I have a new trigger that I can rob parts from but I will need to replace them eventually. I shot off an email to the manufacturer to see if they would provide the size so I could source it locally.

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It is now Friday at 8PM. I have not heard from the company that manufactured my trigger. I see this as a customer service fail. The trigger was a Saber Trigger from James Madison Tactical. I will not be buying any of their other products.

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Anyone own a Ruger mini 14? I think it'd be a fun little gun and not to expensive to shoot either.

The mini 30 would be nice but for my purposes for it, .223 would be just fine. I don't need it in 7.62.

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Not very accurate apparently, i nearly bought one but my gunsmith smacked me :(

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The early Mini-14's came with a 10:1 refiling twist. It would shoot light bullets reasonably well but they had trouble stabilizing heavier bullets. I have an after-market bull barrel on one of the early models and it is a tack driver. Do not buy one unless it has an 8:1 or 7:1 barrel on it.

I have also had an early Mini-30. The barrel was .308 and most of the ammo for it was .311". They were prone to wearing out the rifling if you shot a lot, Ruger changed the bore to .311 some time in the 90's. The Mini-30 also did not like the steel cased commie block ammo and would have feeding issues.

The receiver is a proven design. There are some year models to stay away from and others that are fantastic guns. I am not a fan of 7.62x39 in anything but commie bloc guns.

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Anyone own a Ruger mini 14? I think it'd be a fun little gun and not to expensive to shoot either.

The mini 30 would be nice but for my purposes for it, .223 would be just fine. I don't need it in 7.62.
I've got 1 but they're not sniper rifles,to get them to shoot 2moa sometimes takes some accurizing,escpecially in the older models. From what I'm gathering from some Mini 14 sites I go to a lot of the newer ones will shoot 2moa without any accurizing but you may still need to do some experimenting with different ammo because some of them can be picky about what they shoot good. I've got a newer model myself but still had to install an Accustrut to get the groups down at 100 yards enough to even think about taking it coyote hunting and it still could be better,so I'm planning on installing an adjustable gas block too. That will also help keep it from flinging brass 30 ft.

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Holy cow, I had read mostly positive reviews on them. Mainly from people who just target shoot and use it for the occasional farm varmint.

I'm not a hunter, just a gun lover. I do love to target shoot or plink steel from 100-200 yards. I'm not marksman but I'd love to be able to reach out to 1000 yards one day. Cant justify spending the $$ on a gun for it though.

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You will not accurately reach out to 1000 yards with any 223/5.56 or 7.62x39 rifle with any effect. A 7.62x39 has very little energy past 300 yards. A 5.56 can ring a gong at 600 yards but it has spent all of it's energy. You need 7mm Mag, .308, 30-06, .338 Laupa or 50 Cal or a few others to reach out.

For 100 to 300 yards 223 will work but 300 yards that is about it for a drop shot. For up to 500 yards a 6.8SPC works, for up to 1000 yards a .308 works, for 1500 yards 338 laupa works for a shot that will drop a target. As you go up it gets a lot more expensive to shoot.

A 50 BMG is a whole different story.

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But I do love shooting it by the way. I reload too so working up loads give me an extra reason to shoot it. ;)

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squirrelhunter, which barrel and twist rate do you have on your Mini?

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squirrelhunter, which barrel and twist rate do you have on your Mini?
Mine's a 583 model and a 9:1 twist I believe,that's what a guy at Ruger told me anyway.

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With the 8:1 bull barrel I tried the 55gr, 62gr, and 69gr. The 55gr was the most accurate up to about 125 yards and then the 62 had the tightest group up to the max distance of the range, 250 yards. But all three were sub MOA at 100 yards.

I have been out in Wyoming at a friends and we had fun shooting the gophers. Shooting yotes shouldn't be an issue. Have fun with your Mini.

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I've only shot 50-60g so far but I'm planning on getting some 5.56 brass and go up to about 68g.

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And it does not end...

About 3 weeks ago I was loading some 9mm. I sort my brass by headstamp because there are some brass that is too soft to reliably reload and then there is something called a stepped case. The stepped cases can be reloaded but the bottom half of the case is about 4 to 5 times as thick as the top rim.

This step causes two problems. It reduces the volume of the case so that the load for a normal case causes pressure way beyond what 9mm can handle. Most of the time it will not kaboom the gun but it has happened. What usually happens a reloader who does not sort cases loads it up like normal. He goes to shoot and it goes pow, pow, POW and the next bullet will not go into battery. The round that was overpressure has blown the case apart right at the step and it has fire-formed itself to the bottom of your chamber.

I had found 2 of the Ammoland stepped brass cases mixed in with the brass I swept up from my previous trip to the range but, I missed one. Just to add some de-cap dies will choke on the stepped brass but other brands can process it. The brand of dies I have will not process it. So on my down stroke of the press I feel a lot of resistance so I stop and attempt to back it off. It is jammed. So I give it a little more muscle and it breaks free. My case is stuck in the die. No matter what I do I cannot get it out. The die manufacturer charges $5 for stuck case removal. I got an RMA and sent it back. RCBS sent me a new die with the spring loaded decaper and did not charge me the removal fee.

I get it back yesterday. I have it in my press and I have got it set up and I go to load some ammo. My press does not auto-index and I have to manually turn the turret. The first two are no problem but the third turn it is very stiff and the case wobbles around in the case holder. The next three are fine and I come back around to the one that was stiff and it is just as stiff as the first time.

I took everything apart and started measuring everything. My shell plater holder has warped. I called Dillon and they gave me an RMA for a new shellplate. This will keep me from reloading my range 9mm cases for another couple of weeks and I will have to dip into the reserves.

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Jesus.... When it rains it pours.

So, a few weeks ago I bought a set of sights for my Beretta 92A1, with the advice of a Trijicon employee who confirmed which sights are correct for my application. They are tritium sights. I got them in and took it over to my local gunsmith. They would not fit without alteration.

I brought them home and I contacted trijicon. They suggested I send the slide and sights to them, under the guise that I would only need to pay shipping. After some thinking, I did just that. My local AK pack and ship charged me 36 bucks to send that slide to Michigan. First and last time I use them.

Last night I received a quote for the installation. $32. That's a lot more than $0. Well, I just called Trijicon, explained the situation and successfully got it waived, which I expressed my gratitude for. However, it is possible that the sights I was sent by Brownells may not be the correct sights at all, as the rear sight would not enter the dovetail whatsoever.

I guess we will see what happens in the next few days.

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