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I have been there for a couple of years. My dad was a 1911 nut. He had just about every major brand in all available calibers. He would buy one, change out a few parts to get it "tuned right" and turn around and sell it to fund the next one. He kept 5 or 6 all of the time.

I shot most of them and was never very impressed as the heavy hitters always hurt the palm of my hand or pinched. His daily carry was a Colt Commander in 38 Super for many years and latter on a Colt Commander in 9mm. He liked having 10 rounds and always said Colt was the standard. Springfield Armory was a close second. 

About 2 years ago I decided to put my Taurus 92AF into semi-retirement and needed a new range toy. My shooting buddy who also worked at one of the LGS's suggested the Colt Govt 9mm with the Competition barrel - he said if I didn't like it he would buy it from me for what I paid for it. Out of the box it is the best shooting gun I have ever shot and is stupid accurate with a very good trigger. I have about 7k rounds through it.



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I've always been a bit of a purist when it comes to 1911s. 5 inch barrel, 45 ACP, period.

But... For some reason, .38 super intrigues me. That and I wouldn't mind grabbing a .460 Rowland conversion kit for my R1 someday.

Can you tell me what's makes the .38 Super, super?



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Arctic, check this out, good for the info you want.




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Basically they tried to make a 9mm magnum. The case length is increased so a higher powder charge can be used. The weak point is the webbing in the base of the case.

The end result was a cartridge that is about 200fps faster than the +P 9mm. They are very accurate and are rarely seen in anything but a 1911 frame. They are a boutique round as the ammo is hard to find and most that shoot it reload.



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Definitely a spicy little cartridge from what I can tell.

I noticed something. A lot of our handgun calibers are .355 or whatever the actual dimension is. 9mm, .38, .357, .380, .38 Super, and I believe also .38 special, and .357 sig.

I wonder what it is about that diameter that seems to work out so well for many cartridges.



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I loading Hi-Tech coated lead and it is .356 for 9mm. When I load .355 in FMJ. I have stopped buying plated as they are to problematic. The 38Super, .380, and 357Sig should be 355/356. There are about 18 cartridges in this caliber.

When I had the 357 I loaded .357 FMJ and .358 lead WCs. I loaded them about half way between 38+p and 357mag in 38Special cases. I did load them long so they would not fit in a 38Special.

There is also a lot of 45 calibers out there. 45Colt, 45 Long Colt, 45ACP, 45GAP, 454 Casull, 45 HP, 45 Special, 45 Schofield, and about 11 others.

There is alway somebody doing a wildcat cartridge with a piece of necked down rife cartridge. I had an uncle that was a Armorer in the Marines and cross-trained as a machinist/mechanic. He liked to take a .50 BMG case and neck it down to use heavy bullets in the .308 to .410 sizes. He was into long distance shooting.



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I suppose there are only so many calibers one can come up with.

I don't profess to know everything, and I believe I'm about to show a bit of my ignorance. You would think I would know this by heart but I don't.

Talking specifically about the AR15, I'm aware that sighting in at one distance (say 50 yards) have an affect on where your rounds land when shooting at different distances.

I found a chart online, and as clear and easy to digest as it is (sarcasm), I think it's missing a crucial detail.

On each of the targets shown there are different colored dots standing for different distances.

I have my Windham Weaponry 20" AR15A4 sighed in at 25 yards. So, therefor, is this chart telling me where my rounds will land on a target at a given distance if I aim for the center OR is it telling me where to aim on the target when I'm X distance away to hit the center?

IE, If i'm shooting at 200 yards (green dot - @ 25 yard zero), does the green dot show me where my rounds will land on the target if I aim for the center, or it telling me where to put the front sight post in order to hit the center?

I really hope that question makes sense, because that's the best way I could figure out how to word it. Really, this whole thing talks a lot but actually tells you (or me at least) very little. Don't even get me started on MOA....

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I have been studying that chart and there is not enough info. The weight of the bullet is a factor as generally a heavier bullet will not travel as far and have more drop (charge plays into this as well). The bullet profile is another variant, a small hollow point tip on a boat tail bullet typically is more accurate than a soft point or spitzer FMJ.

Typically for most rifle at 25 yards the point of impact is the same as the POI at 100 yards. The 200 yard POI will drop below the 100 yard POI - how much it drops is determined by the bullet profile, charge, and weight of the bullet.

My 223 Mini-14 with a 62gr SP leaves the barrel at 3100fps. My 6.8 SPC with a 90gr HPBT leaves the barrel at 2950fps. The 6.8 SPC has a much flatter trajectory as the power factor is almost 70 points higher. I do not see as much bullet drop at the 200, 300, and 400 yard marks. The 6.8 makes a better medium range rifle.

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I showed this same chart to my father (who is not a shooter by any means) and it didn't make any sense to him either. Usually if we put our heads together we can decipher something, this being the exception.



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Have any of you guys seen the Ruger PC-9? Normally this type of rifle doesn't turn my gears that much, but I'm actually finding myself wanting one of these. I only wish it was also compatible with beretta 92 magazines. Feels kind of strange buying a bunch of Glock mags for your new Ruger. :crazy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFibgF2CKA


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Just found out about Franklin Armory's new "Reformation" rifle. It's an AR-15 with an 11.5 inch barrel and a magpul stock. But.... here's the kicker. Apparently it's not a 'rifle' (as per ATF definitions) and you also don't need a tax stamp to get one. I'm sitting on the edge of my seat to find out how they pulled this one off. They even got an ATF approval letter for it ahead of time.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/01/11/reformation-franklin-armory-hacks-nfa-no-sbr-11-5-ar/

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Yeah, i'm curious to see what that actually is.



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The Ruger PC-9 is based off their previous Police carbine design from a few years back. The trigger action is the same as a 10/22 so there are thousands of mods for upgrades out there.

If I didn't have my AR-9 pistol I would be looking at the PC-9 very hard.



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Since I'm a total AR nut, I considered a 9mm carbine of some kind, but I never could really get excited about it. This one however....

There's a place in my heart for older style stuff. It's a nice meshing of a traditional style rifle with just enough modern flare (1913 rails, the take-down feature, etc) to make it not only interesting, but practical as well.

I can see myself snagging one of these up after I snag up an AK; that is if we still have 7.62x39 in the country, lol. If that really did happen, that would suck considering I'm sitting on that nice set of furniture that I bought last summer.



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You could always make a lamp out of the furniture. Nice conversation piece! :)



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I suppose. Then again, I could always get my money back plus profit if I chose to sell off the furniture. I'd rather see it mounted on some beautiful black steel.



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But the lamp idea... it would match beautifully with your Brazilian Cherry floor!

Okay, I'll leave you alone now. :)



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A carbine in a pistol caliber is a very accurate gun. The extra barrel length stabilizes the bullet very well. With my 1911 Govt model I have a JHP that averages 1270 fps. When I put it in my AR-9 that has a 10.5" barrel it jumps up to 1540 fps. If I use a buddies 14.7" barrel it runs at 1570 fps. With a 16" barrel it is 1590fps.

The 10.5" has a good increase in velocity and has the weight savings I was looking for. The 357Sig and 10mm do even better jumps in velocity with a carbine over their pistol counterparts.



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There's definitely lots of appeal to a pistol caliber carbine. I'd love to see a 10mm version of the PC9. Who knows, with it being a takedown, maybe they'll sell caliber conversion kits.


Meanwhile, I decided to mock up project vietnam just to see it. C'mon brownells! I've gots to build me a rifle!



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Well tomorrow I'm headed over to the army surplus store to try and find a holster for my 92A1.

The holster I have has one fatal flaw that I hadn't considered. My belt only slips through one 'slot', thus only has one attachment point. The holster likes to rotate quite significantly on my belt, which is unacceptable, at least for my purposes. I'm hoping they have something workable for a good price. Chances are pretty good they do, considering the 92 platform was in service from 1985 up until just recently, 2016 I believe is when it got the axe.



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I know this is a Gun Thread but I recently had a knife finished I forged years ago on a 2500 lb. Drop Hammer.
The Blade and Handle was finish recently by JMC Custom Knifes and he did a great job.
I could never get the hang of finishing the blade and then forget about finishing aHandle.
Here is a picture of the Raw Forging.
Finished Knife, next picture.

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This is the finished Knife.

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A buddy of mine got his first pistol 5 months ago and had never fired it. I took him to the range and gave a basic firearms lesson and introduced him to one of the RO's that offers firearms classes. We blew through 600 rounds of ammo between his gun (Glock 17) and mine (Colt 1911 Government 9mm).

I brought a variety of ammo to see what worked well with his G17. I had everything from 115 RN TMC, 115 +p RN FMJ, 124 RN FMJ, 124 JHP (non-expanding), 124 JHP (expanding), 125 RN Hi-Tech coated, and 147 FMJ RN sub-sonic. The non-expanding JHP and the 147 FMJ RN were the two most accurate in the G17. He liked the soft recoil of the 147's. BTW: the non-expanding JHP was the most accurate in the 1911 as well and the +P 115RN FMJ a close second.



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Well, my quest for an AK just got narrowed down further yet. The C39V2 is a ticking time bomb. MAC has a video on it, I recommend watching it.

Long story short, I'm not getting a WASR10. Century Arms has their hands in assembly on both the WASR10 and the C39V2 as well as the RAS47. I'm staying as far away from century as possible while I look at other options.



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I have had a few AK's over the years. I liquidated 8 of them in 2012 for almost $900 more than I paid for them. A couple of them in the rock and roll version when I was in Afghanistan. The two most accurate x39 rifles I have had were a VZ2008 and a PSA AK. Both had an American made barrels. After that the average Yugo SKS will out-shoot most of the red block rifles that have been imported.
Right now I have a Chinese SKS that shoots 3" MOA and a VZ2008 that will shoot 1.7" MOA both with good ammo. The VZ shoots minute of pie-plate with Tula and Wolf ammo. Both of those guns see little use as I like to shoot more accurate guns.
I have 3 AR's right now. Two rifles and one pistol. All 3 are sub MOA.



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Well, I decided what AK I'm going to get. A beauty from Atlantic Firearms. This is the AK I fell in love with several months ago that made me decide I needed an AK. I figured these wouldn't be here by the time I was ready to get one, so I bought a set of russian red furniture. The same furniture which is already on this rifle. I might try to sell the extra set or keep it as a spare set. I'll decide that later on.

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/morr-aam-rom47-red-detail.html?Itemid=0

Also stopped by my local army surplus store in search of a sling. No dice. I wound up with a nice jacket (no insignia) and an ammo can I'm going to turn into a tethered, locked safe for my truck.




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