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I can't lie.. I did shotgun shell reloads back in the day and one day I am going to get into doing my own ammo again..



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First 2 boxes of waste away ammo the woman bought were winchester white boxes... holy squibs... such   ammo imo



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Any love for creepy/scary gasmasks?



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Wrong kinky website brotha... LOL

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Funny you should mention that. There's a company that makes new GP-5 masks for.....THAT reason. Imagine my surprise while hunting for either a PMG1 or black SHMS.



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The Winchester White Box ammo is some of the best pistol brass out there for reloading. I had 110 cases that I reloaded 50 times last year. I lost about 6 or 7 because the rims were getting chewed up by my extractor. None of them split a case or had a separation issue.

My dad and uncles were into reloading so I grew up around it. I had one uncle who could make bullet molds, one that worked at Hercules/Aliant where they made gunpowder, and another that access to free lead. They would test different bullet shapes and weights to get the best accuracy or expansion. The only ammo we ever bought was 22LR and 22WSM.



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That's the first "good" thing I have heard about winchester white box :)



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I'm next to flat broke right now after the move, but this looks like a really good deal for the rest of you :)

500 rounds of "Garand safe" 30.06 @ ~64c /rnd  Just about $12.70 a box of 20, which is a great price. ($320 shipped)

https://www.targetsportsusa.com/prvi-partizan-30-06-m1-garand-ammo-150-grain-fmj-500-rds-ammocan-p-3573.aspx



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That is a decent price on plinking ammo for a Garand. The good thing about the PPU brass is good for reloading.

On another note, I have a buddy that just turned 70 and he started cleaning out his gun locker and ammo locker cutting down to just a few guns and the ammo for them. He had a 5 gallon bucket of brass, 3 boxes of cast 125gr 9mm RN, and about 50 shell tray's that he gave me. My buddy was not a reloader but he had a few friends that were. Supposedly some of the 10mm and 9mm have been reloaded and the rest is once fired.

I have been going through the brass and it is about equally split up between 9mmLugar, 10mm, 45ACP, and 454 Casull but there are a couple hand fulls of 30-30 and 7.62x39. I have been running my tumbler non-stop since Wednesday cleaning batches of 400-500 of 9mm and I am about half way through cleaning the 9mm.

I will trade the 45ACP to another buddy of mine for 45ACP with the small primer. I will let him clean and sort it out. With the price of police trade in 10mm I am considering getting a 10mm. My 44mag with hot Magnum loads are not fun to shoot anymore, it hurts. A 454 Casull has about 2.5 times the power of a 44Mag. The 454 brass will probably go on the brass trader site as I have no desire to ever shoot one of those again.



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Nice fine to get, good to run the tumbler for huge batch lots ;)


PPU make fine range ammo, i'd snatch that box up if i had the cash, you can't find 30.06 for $12 a box anywhere, and this is *delivered* as well as a .50cal can!



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Bought that same stuff for my M1. Seems to be good stuff. I'm wishing right now that I was a hunter, because that 30-06 is compelling me to be one. Taking a buck down with the old war horse just sounds awesome.

I've made a new acquisition, today. I bought my first scope. A Vortex Crossfire II 2-7x32 for rimfire guns. Bought it with the intention of putting it on my Henry lever action, which is my favorite levergun to shoot as of writing. Only problem is, I can't find dovetail rings that are .600 high.

I did find a dovetail to weaver adapter and a set of suitable rings accordingly, but I'm going to try and hold out for true dovetail rings. I won't be heartbroken if I can't find any, but i'd prefer that.

Loving the scope though. Even if I can't get it to work on the Henry, I'm not getting rid of it. I'll figure something out....


Also, I made a gunbroker account for the next gun I plan on buying. Feel free to take guesses at what that might be.

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ArcticWolf, 30-06 has bagged many a deer. The Garand is a heavy rifle to be used for hunting. It will do the job. I would recommend a Remington 700/78 or a Ruger American/Scout/No.1 series as a better alternative as they are almost half the weight and more accurate. My primary deer rifle is a Remington 78 30-06 with a Simmons TV view 4-12x44 that is .6 MOA at 100 yards. It has been a 1 shot 1 kill gun since the early 80's.

I also have a Remington 7600 pump .270 that I have turned into a scout rifle. I have both 10 and 20 round magazines for a sub MOA gun that can easily reach out to 900 yards. I am running a 4-12x50 Leopold with peep sights on it. It is nice to have choices.

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I have plans to get a Remington 700. I'm thinking I'll get it chambered for 30-06, if only so I don't have to have yet another kind of ammo on hand. I've got enough calibers already, and my collection is still growing. I've got a list of guns to buy, yet, lol.

I'll run through that right quick.

Currently I own....

A Windham Weaponry AR15A4 20" - 5.56x45 / .223
Project Vietnam AR15A1 20" - 5.56x45 / 223
Henry H001T Lever Action - 22LR/22L/22S
Remington R1 1911 Gov. - .45 ACP
Beretta 92A1 - 9x19
M1 Garand - 30-06

I have plans to get (save for one that I'm not ready to reveal yet)

A Romanian AK47 - 7.62x39

Two AR15 builds, one 16" retro dissipator and one 11.5 pistol, both 5.56x45 - .223

A CZ75 - 9x19
Polished chrome Desert Eagle - 50 Action Express

S&W 686 6" - 357 Magnum / .38 Special

Makarov - 380 ACP

Ruger PC Carbine "Takedown" 9x19

Henry Big Boy - 357 Magnum / .38 Special

G3 Clone from Atlantic

Remington R1 Hunter - 10mm

Beretta 21A "Bobcat" - 22LR

Smith & Wesson 36 "Chief Special" - .38 Special

Beretta 84FS - 380 ACP

Colt 1911 Series 70 - 45 ACP

Taylors & Co. Outlaw Legacy in Nickel - 45 Colt

Remington 700 - Caliber undecided, likely 30-06




.....that's a lot of different calibers, lol.


Oh, also, anyone interested in a set of Boyd's AK47 furniture? I've got an unmounted set I want to sell off.

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Interesting list of wants. 

G3 Clone from Atlantic? I would skip the G3 Clone as they have been hit or miss. The ones with the wood furniture seem to have fewer issues - they have been beating Century up over them at AR15.com forum. For what a G3 Clone costs a PTR 91 is not much more and it has a better reputation.

On the Colt 1911 Series 70 - 45 ACP, the Government model is currently being produced with the competition barrel. I have the 9mm version and it has been one of the best guns right out of the box that I own. For a 1911 you can't go wrong with a Colt.

I had a Beretta 84F a few years back and sold it for a nice profit about 8 years ago. It is a big 380. With your choices in 380ACP I am a bit surprised a Walther PP isn't on your list.



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The PTR 91 is actually the clone I was referring to, but since I have never heard anyone mention it anywhere else, I thought nobody would know what I was talking about if I said "PTR 91" instead of "G3 clone".

I'm not really all that big on Walther, to be honest. The P22 we have here is a fun handgun to shoot, but I personally have no interest in buying another walther of any sort.

The two choices I have for 380 is a little complicated. I've wanted a Makarov for a while, but I prefer the selection of .380 ammo over 9x18 Makarov ammo. I like variety. I happened to find the 84FS while seeing what else Beretta had to offer, and I like the way that handgun looks, not necessarily for what it's chambered in. Having both of those in the same caliber makes storage easier, as I don't have to have one caliber (9x18) that nothing else in my collection takes. To my knowledge, nothing else in any mainstream way takes 9x18 either. Having the two pistols share the same common caliber is a convenience measure, really.

As far as calibers go, I haven't actually bought a gun specifically for what it's chambered in. More often than not I've bought the guns I have because I like them in it of themselves. The one exception to this rule will be something chambered for 300 Blackout. I don't see myself getting more than one suppressor in my life, and if I ever do it seems that I'd get the most bang for my buck (pardon the pun) out of a blackout than most other calibers.

On that same note, I'm wanting to build/buy a rifle that would be well suited to deer hunting, but not something I couldn't afford to target shoot with. I have a lot of family up north that enjoy deer hunting and guns alike, so I can reasonably expect to find myself tagging along at some point. I've kind of got a mental check list going on of features that I want, which some firearms on my list manage to achieve. I assure you, there is a method to my madness. I just haven't found it yet.

I'm just beginning my research, but I'm thinking I can tick off a few checks with one rifle.

Scoped centerfire
Bolt action
300 blackout
Deer-capable

...that is of course if 300 blackout is a suitable cartridge for that purpose. The three calibers I have in mind for this rifle, whatever it winds up being (likely a 700), are 30-06, .308, and the aformentioned .300 blackout.

My thought proccess thus far has reasonably concluded the following for my specific case.

With 30-06, I've already got a rifle chambered for that cartridge, so storage already exists for it. Care would need to be taken as not to accidently load a higher power cartridge into the M1, but that shouldn't be a big deal.

With 308, there's no worry for an accident, but I don't have storage for it currently so that means more space and higher cost to run. From what I've read, 30-06 and .308 seem to be pretty equal with no clear winner between the two.

With 300 Blackout, I would not only tick off one of my check boxes, but that also opens up effective suppression. I realize .308 can also be suppressed, but it seems that blackout can be much more effectively suppressed. It also seems a shorter barrel can be employed in the case of blackout vs .308, which implys better manuverability.

Not sure what I'll wind up with yet, and it'll be a while anyway so I have time to think and ponder over it.



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Modern 30-06 and .308 are almost identical with their ability. Very good for deer and it can reach out there. 7mm Mag and 331 Lapua can reach a little further. Those can take down any game in North America. The 300BLK can put down hogs and deer but you will need to have 130gr to 140gr bullets as they are in the optimal weight range to create the most power with a 300BLK. You are also not going to be able to go beyond 125 yards with a hunting round in 300BLK as it looses a lot of power at that distance.

If you are going to go suppressed 300 BLK you need to be reloading. For suppressed you also want to keep the barrel at least 9" and no more than 14" with a 10:1 twist with an adjustable gas block (this will drop you effective range with a shorter barrel). Tuning a bullet to a gun will give you a consistency that you can't get with factory ammo unless you stick to one match grade variety. The 300BLK is one of the few rifle calibers that is extremely versatile.  A 110gr JRN can be safely loaded to 2400fps out of it and with a change of powder it can be shot at 105fps for a sub-sonic load. A 200gr JRN is easier to get good sub sonic loads but with CFE BLK powder it can make 1650fps.

I built a 10.5" barrel AR pistol 6 years ago and ended up selling it to my brother-in-law. He paid the tax and put a can on it. He uses it for varmint hunting and hog hunting. If I was going to do it again I would build 2 uppers for an AR Pistol. One with a 9" barrel for suppressed shooting and a 18 or 20" bolt action for hunting.



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I just bought something insanely cool for a super bargain. I bought an M1 garand rifle grenade launcher from Numrich that comes with the sight and it's bag.



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For some reason, i didn't know they existed, pics?  :)


Also, you reminded me, i picked this up many moons ago, still haven't seen it in person, still sat with my FFL.

FNS-9, Longslide.

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Here's what it looks like.



You stick it on over the end like you would a bayonet, unload the ball you've got in the gun and single load a rifle grenade cartridge, which is a blank with more powder. The tube on the end is where the grenade is slid onto. SLiding it on to various degrees and holding it at various angles changes the distance at which it'll fly, reportedly anywhere from 50 to 200 yards.

To prevent damage to the gas system with the massively increased pressure, there's a little peg sticking out. This goes into the gas plug (cross style). Inside these gas plugs, there's a spring loaded vent. With it mounted, the rest of the gas is simply vented so that the rifle doesn't bust itself cycling.

Here's a video on the topic if you want more details. I Don't have a dummy grenade for it, but I'm going to try and make my own projectile from some good pipe so that I won't bust a collectible dummy round.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=161JT0WRVf4



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Did you get the grenade carriage with it?

The first time I saw one of those I was thinking, Nope! Too many things that could go wrong.



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The one I bought comes with the launcher pictured, the sight and bag. I don't know much about them, so I couldn't tell you what part the carriage is.



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The carriage works with your piece. It is just another projectile that will work. You take a pineapple grenade and insert it into the carriage and set the release arm. The release arm goes through to tab on the rear when the carriage is mounted on the launcher. After you insert your blank you want to pull the pin. When you fire the blank the carriage shoots off the launcher and the release arm springs off igniting the fuse.



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Ohhh, that deal. Now I know what you're talking about. No, mine didn't come with that. I'll have to get one or two.

I did decide finally on my rifle, however.

I chose a Remington 700 set in a magpul stock, chambered for .308 Winchester. The stock has adjustable LOP and comb, but is magazine fed, the removable type that is. Not a big deal, as I consider the advantage of the adjustable stock to outweigh the removable magazine. It comes with a threaded barrel, whose dimensions aren't specified but I expect to be 5/8x24. To add more bonus, the stock has MLOK attachment points, which is nice, and also has an upgraded trigger.

https://www.remington.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/model-700-magpul

I decided I'm also going to tip my toes into the waters of the NFA. I'm going to get a suppressor. I don't know much about them, but I know what I want to get out of it. The suppressor will be primarily for the 700, but it needs to have the capacity to work on my AR15s and a PTR-91.

That being said, I'm thinking QD style rather than direct thread. So far the Sandman S/L/TI cans are looking promising, specifically the L. I have to do more research on cans and learn up on 'em in general, but at this point I think I'll wind up with one of those three.



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The 700 in .308 is a good long range shooter. A good 4.5-14x50mm scope with a Mil dot reticle would be a good choice for a scope. Except for my 22LR, all of my scoped rifles have a scope that was more expensive than the rifle.



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