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No more 2 pc tube or is the separation in a more friendly spot?



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single piece drivers side!
I will get some pics showing early TMH vs new

Here are some wicked cool pics you may never see anywhere else unless somebody has 2 sets of TMH laying around at the same time. 
There are 4 sets of TMH here at my shop right now :) 88 BII is runnning them, 07 has a set installed, the new ones for this build and then there are these old crusty ones.
My stepson James found at a junk yard in Denver........in an Explorer............... the engine was already pulled....................TMH were just sitting there!! LUCKY SOB!!!!!!!!

JUNK YARD FIND TMH!!!!!!! I have had them on the shelf ever since, he keeps threatening to install them on his wifes 98 V8 sploder, I keep threatening to sell them to one of my customers LMFAO

So here's the comparison pics
Older TMH vs TODAY TMH






some small changes to routing, otherwise very similar with the big change being to the drivers side, also the smoothing inside the ports looks MUCH BETTER on the new set
Ill get more pics


ONE PIECE FLANGE!!!! WOOOOHOOOO



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If I order mine now would I get them by Christmas?



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get in line! I need 2-3 more sets
I told Robert I would give him a month or so before we drop any new orders on him :)
I am also expecting my DIY header kids soon....I still plan to build some simple headers for my 01 Sport trac project :)



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Any chance you'd cut the old TMH's lose?



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no way jose they are not mine they are James' and even at $800 he is not budging!
I have tried for years
They sit on high shelf in the shop waiting for install day



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So.. one piece driver side!!? I can weld mine then I suppose?



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no way jose they are not mine they are James' and even at $800 he is not budging!
I have tried for years
They sit on high shelf in the shop waiting for install day

Bang well I had to try!



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So.. one piece driver side!!? I can weld mine then I suppose?
I wouldn't. If you look at the new design it appears they dropped that pipe lower, I know it is a slightly different angle shot but notice how close the flange on the 2 piece (Cyl 5) is to the #7 tube. Then look how far the new one is dropped. I would be afraid it couldn't be removed without excessive force.

Or order a new set and sell yours to 4.0 power...

These things bring new prices at any age. TM's are like real estate.

BUT my FMS headers are so rare I wonder if I could auction them and get torque monsters. I've only met two other people that have them and they really like them. Maybe I will fire mine up some day.



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So.. one piece driver side!!? I can weld mine then I suppose?
I wouldn't. If you look at the new design it appears they dropped that pipe lower, I know it is a slightly different angle shot but notice how close the flange on the 2 piece (Cyl 5) is to the #7 tube. Then look how far the new one is dropped. I would be afraid it couldn't be removed without excessive force.

Or order a new set and sell yours to 4.0 power...

These things bring new prices at any age. TM's are like real estate.

BUT my FMS headers are so rare I wonder if I could auction them and get torque monsters. I've only met two other people that have them and they really like them. Maybe I will fire mine up some day.

Man, you're right! That first primary tube is way you down compared to the originals. Wonder why they did that.  I assume it was to get rid of a potential leak spot and save money..

 I had my headers ported, and having them ceramic coated.. so I'm to deep in my headers to sell.  They flow almost as much as a 1 3/4 ls shortie header.



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I will be installing the TMH to the engine, and then the engine is going in today.....
So I will get some more pics showing the differences between the two sets of headers when actually bolted TO an engine

You might be able to weld that connection, but I do not see the need. 
With a good gasket and good bolts it is not something that comes loose. 

However I do like this new set with a complete header flange instead of one port hanging out in space. 
Your old FMS headers you could indeed auction off and come close to some TMH, likely get $350-400 for those old manifolds. 
When I first started doing this you could still buy the FMS manifolds.....man oh man if we knew better I would have a back lot full of early broncos and explorer 5.0's just collecting value :)

Finished up rear drum brake project on a neighbors 1979 F250...... 40 year old drum brakes and they looked like it. Anywho this allowed me to finally turn my full attention to my Ranger projects.
That's right, summer is done! House addition is "dried in" (that means it has a roof on it) and no more customer trucks are here! Except for this 2000 and Magoo's 07. 
I am now V8 Ranger builder guy for the rest of fall and winter!

Truck was prepped for an engine bay wash. 
Old v6 engine mounts were removed, the engine bay was wetted, the applied two cans of degreaser, let it take hold and then much time was spent with the power washer.
Truck was then pulled back into the bay with my handy dandy 2000# wall mounted HF winch
Let dry, then the engine bay was dressed with silicon spray to bring back the black, dried some more and then a final wipe down. The nice part about this was my wife has been hanging out in the shop more and more so she was my extra set of eyes. I love it when wifey comes out to play! So did the shop dogs.......

She's outside! knock the dust off


Usually there are about 12 more fords in the background, they have all been fixed and sent home!



Engine bay BEFORE, notice all orifices' are plugged


301K of nastyness collected


wet and degreaser applied liberally


let soak, chassis de greased also (bio degradable). She sits up pretty tall with no drivetrain and a superlift


The stuff you find in an engine bay after 301K miles


Ready to pull her back in, no need to wait for help or get out the tractor




Dogs came to see if mommy would throw the stick, puppy "Ace" in background is 6 months now, "Ranger" is shop veteran at 5 years old

Yes that is a bubble of drool in anticipation of the stick being tossed


Ace is never allowed to actually get the stick, so she does the next best thing and just carries around her own

After power washing and silicon dressing


Now that is a clean slate, much easier for me to work on and we have removed 300K miles of gunk


Now to bring the 306 around front, run to town to get my Mr gasket header gaskets and then we prep the block for install

Our owner here is quite thorough, as I unpacked the rear of the Ranger I was reminded of all the good parts I was left with for this conversion.
OCD much? He even installed anti seize on the threads of the new fan clutch in case I didn't know better..... you will see his OCD shine through on this build, like masking tape first and then duct tape to seal the engine.... this is a true "car guy" somebody who knows what a PITA it is to remove duct tape goo from mating surfaces

New v8 mounts


OCD much? 

I do not mind! Usually I have to run all around and get all of these parts, our owner here was planning this conversion out for some time, was planning to do it himself and was well prepared



Just some of the top notch parts I have been provided with, as I finally unpacked the back of the truck I found all of the goodies needed 


Stay tuned



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James do you cut the little pin or whatever you call it off the driver side mount when taking the spacer out or drill a small hole in the frame? 
  Nice setup with the winch!!!!



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the v8 mounts bolt directly in place with no mods? Because both trucks were designed from the factory to run the sohc engine they have same bolt pattern on truck side of engine mounts

if you are re using the v6 mounts then you drill one hold in the drivers side 5.0 engine plate
Here's a pic from the 07 build


Hope that helps!


More unpacking of the new parts! More engine bay prep

First up finish detailing the engine bay and re coat the factory battery tray

Yes I will be putting a heat wrap on the heater box here since the factory tin foil piece is in pieces


battery tray cleaned and wire brushed a bit then shot with provided flat black

a few coats later


Some of the goodies sent with the truck, puzzle pieces all laid out




even came with loc tite, paint, amsoil break in fluids, all tune up parts, even teflon tape!!
very refreshing!! Lets do this



First up install new V8 explorer engine mounts

Next the new power steering high pressure line gets installed to the rack


And now I need to prepare/build the v8 starter wiring harness, ac harness and alternator harness, it is easiest to put the starter wiring, the trans cooler lines and power steering hoses in place before the engine drops in
So I need the two alternator voltage regulator wires from the old v6 engine harness:
First I cut the insulation off in a few key spots....then unpin the two wires and pull them through


this is what we are after
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forceps to remove the red keeper pick to lift up the locking pins and pull wire out

end result


Now I turn my attention to the starter/ac/alternator wiring harness', I need to cut apart the v8 and v6 harness' to make one unit that interfaces with the truck
Here is the v6 harness in question:

and the v8 stuff


More on that wiring later
Time to bring the 306 up front so it can be prepped to drop in, I had to remove the shipping pallet and front accessory brackets.....put engine on a stand and that is how far we got yesterday 

because "the zone" totally screwed up my in store order of the exhaust gaskets as in they never ordered them and now they say they are a week out.......so I ordered some from Amazon, some Remflex graphite gaskets..... so frustrating!! 

But its really my bad for not having the gaskets here prior to TMH arriving. Its okay plenty I can do while we wait........


Isn't she pretty? YEAH BUDDY!! Battle on



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Alright getting engine ready, truck ready, wiring ready, and trans cooler lines ready..................

first up install 5.0 explorer oil filter adapter to Jasper longblock:
remove 302 oil filter adapter from block, this needs to be the explorer style piece


Silly jasper, no paint allowed on sealing surfaces, not here, not today

All cleaned up

explorer bit installed, 1-1/4" socket

Prep the rest of the explorer parts, wait there is one O ring missing
Parts were cleaned and bagged by our truck owner...  awesome


Now I can clean behind ring and prep both O rings for install with some lube

Mating surfaces cleaned, O rings in place, 98-2001 style oil filter adapter installed to block


Done

Now to clean and prep the explorer 302 transmission cooler lines


degrease


Wipe clean and clean threads and fittings


Houston we have a problem

You see THIS IS WHY we do not skip steps
Large wear spot and hole in the feed line!!

Luckily I happed to have a 5.0 feed line lying around we can use :)
Bad line replaced, 3 lines ready to go

Lines cleaned inside and out, prepped for paint because they were looking pretty ratty.
I sprayed them with a galvanized coating to protect them and still look stock



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Time to prep some under hood wiring

First up, the 5.0 starting and battery harness needs a few mods:


Some of the 302 explorers had a oil level sensor in the oil pan. 
Our Jasper engine does not have this sensor
So the wires were removed from this harness, 3 small wires....

This harness will provide for our swap:
+positive and - battery terminals (we will be replacing these ones with LUG style connectors)
+ wire to starter from battery
+ wire from battery to PJB (power junction box)
- wire from battery to frame and engine
Yellow starter solenoid trigger wire to starter

All wiring is cleaned and wrapped where needed


Ready to be adapted into truck and laid into place before engine





Next up is the V6 starter and battery harness, this came right out of the 2000 Ranger:


We do not need the battery cables or the alternator wiring....
what we do need is the 8 pin round plug that adapts the starter + feed, ac clutch and ac low pressure switch wires to the truck


Harness was cut apart and the target feeds removed:



Now we have the 8 pin plug which plugs directly into our truck and leaves us with:
Yellow/lb starter relay to starter solenoid feed
AC high pressure switch + and - from dash
AC Clutch control + and - from dash

Harness cleaned and ready to be adapted into the truck



Finally we need to prepare the alternator / charging circuit wires.
The 5.0 alternator to PJB wire is kept, Black / orange
The V6 alternator wires that were removed from the 4.0 engine wires are ready to be grafted into the 5.0 engine harness





Here is everything laid out under the hood in its target location












tomorrow I will install this 5.0 wiring harness to frame bracket, we need to drill a hole or two


Now time to install the power steering high pressure hose and cooler return line
Hoses and fittings cleaned on both sides, some thread sealant is used to prevent seepage even though these are flare fittings
Much easier to install now then after engine is in



You can also see more of the target wire routing



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Do you leave wires long like that after the engine is installed to help locate everything if there for some reason is a hiccup later? Or do you just do that for right now to help you out before everything is in?



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Making quick work of this one..
 Good thing to catch that transmission line now and not later once you filled the trans  and fire it up

 Why did I have such a hard time with my ac/starting harness..lmao

 Were you able to use the original ranger chassis side harness plug and it plug up to the v8 harness? I'm wondering now if I did mine wrong?

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Do you leave wires long like that after the engine is installed to help locate everything if there for some reason is a hiccup later? Or do you just do that for right now to help you out before everything is in?


I do not leave the wires long, they will be tailored to fit the engine bay and run along with the other wire looms.
The extra length there now is just so I know I have enough.

All connections will be cut to length, soldered and heat shrunk, then wrapped.

This is just a "test fit" to show people how the wiring is done
I get ALOT of questions about this wiring, so I am trying to make it as clear as possible :)


Were you able to use the original ranger chassis side harness plug and it plug up to the v8 harness? I'm wondering now if I did mine wrong?
Well the 8 pin ranger plug remains, yes and it plugs into the truck yes.....but there is still some wiring to be done on the AC side of things. Why? Because when I lay the 5.0 harness in here it too has AC wires in the engine harness....so these two systems STILL need to be integrated together.

The other wires like the yellow starter feed is in its final spot...sans shortening 
The alternator voltage regulator wires  and battery charging wires are in place, but still need to be wrapped into the 5.0 harness

This is just the preliminary wiring that gets done before the v8 is dropped in
The starter harness, trans cooler lines, and power steering hoses are the important things to have in place when the block is set on its mounts. Otherwise you have to fish them in there which is a PITA, ask me how I know.

I have one set of gaskets coming in today and one set of gaskets being delivered tomorrow....lets see who wins this race Autozone or Amazon.........I am DYING to drop this engine in then you guys will see how fast I am :) while still maintaining 410 quality control



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Ohhhhh okay, that makes sense! Sorry to question you, you're the pro!! Lol



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All right headers are on, engine is prepped and installed, transmission was prepped and installed here we go!

First up I had a heck of a time getting some gaskets here for these headers, Amazon delivered the Remflex ones, Autozone kinda came through with some Mr Gasket ones and one set is now in the store for me to go pickup...but thats too late. I went with the remflex units and I am happy I did, I will be using these gaskets for TMH installs from now on....they are wicked cool!
The Mr gasket ones 7410G to be exact as for square port 302's, not our GT40 oval port 302....they can be modified to work ok and I have done this in the past...but they are not the best choice. The Mr gasket 7411G would be the ones to use, except I was turned onto these Remflex gaskets by Rick from the Explorerforum. I can see why he likes them! 100% graphite, they crush to conform to the heads and headers to close any gaps, they will never deteriorate, and never fall apart, they are basically heat proof. They also do not need to be re torqued after some heat cycles...its like a dream come true!
So Remflex  is the way to go
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The Remflex part number is 3028
they match the Felpro gaskets that Robert ships with the headers perfectly as far as bolt locations and ports

Finally with the gaskets sorted out, TMH installed to engine. All mating surfaces cleaned and wiped free of any dirt, dust or finger oils. Bolts prepped with red loc tite.  Now you can see why I wanted to install the headers to the engine and then drop the engine in.... installing a set of TMH has some challenges. There are a few bolt locations that can only be accessed with a wrench. And some of these locations can only be accessed with the open end of a wrench. So Robert of TMH supplies us with 4 bolts that have a 6 point head, these are to be used in those locations. All other bolts are 3/8" 12 point head. This is one of those things where you have to install all of the bolts at the same time, a few turns on each until the header is flush to the engine...otherwise you will run out of length on the bolts and not be able to fit your wrench in there. This fine fingered "wrenchwork" is why we like to put the headers on FIRST. 

Remflex gaskets installed and torqued down, very happy

Some pics of the 2020 TMH before install

Now the good stuff





one of the 6 sided bolt positions


drivers done

Please excuse the jack stands and ratchet strap all of my engine stands are being used right now!!!

Passenger done


more "wrenchwork" locations








Remflex for the win!!




12 point and 6 point


TMH ports / quality






Now the headers are on the engine, dipstick installed, engine plates mounted.......time to drop her in!!

But first we need a heat guard on the HVAC box, luckily I have been saving this piece for just this instance. This is a very nice heat shield that fits the HVAC box perfectly. I installed it with one existing screw and a zip tie....perfect
Also a good shape power steering cooler was cleaned up, fins straightened and will be used on this truck




Now raise up the engine and get lined up to drop her in place

This presents its own set of challenges, you see with the TMH attached to the engine the engine mount studs can be very interesting to access.. now you have to actually lift the engine and tighten the studs at the same time..... I have a 18mm wrench I cut in half just for this purpose. Tighten nut 1/4 turn, flip wrench over, tighten 1/4 turn, repeat until engine is seated fully down. Final torque on that back nuts is done with a pry bar on the end of the wrench wedged between the engine. CAREFUL not to scratch the paint!!

Engine bay full prepped, anyone see what I missed? Here I am the guy trying to teach and I still miss stuff.......... I get excited when its time to drop the engine in the bay and sometimes get ahead of myself


PS lines are in, battery cables are in, mounts are in..........something is missing
Also note I had to remove the steering shaft with the engine half way installed....so make sure you remove the steering shaft first if you are attempting this

Also before you install an engine you might want to install the plugs and dipstick


Dipstick is sealed with some permatex and slammed into the engine block using a block of wood and mallet
then bolted to the header bolt to act as the hold down

Plugs are Autolite Irridium, I checked gap on one plug it is spot on, no need to try and gap these I do not want to disturb the irridium tips

A little bit of a battle with the hoist, some pry bars, I had to remove his alarm siren/horn from the firewall to make room, she is finally sitting on her mounts



Here you can see the access to the hold down nuts is rather tricky with the TMH, these are put down with a 18mm wrench, you will not get a socket on 3 of the 4

18mm wrench cut in half, 1/4 turn at a time....... while lifting the engine still with your sling, you have to slowly tighten the rear stud on pass side...... once that one is driven home you can finally remove the engine from the sling and attack the other 3




More pics later...I gotta run some errands



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Hell yes!!! I did a test fit with my engine in bolted down , I'm 2wd... but I can get the headers in pretty easy..
 
Got a part number on those header gaskets?

On those TMH, Does Bob still use the collector spike in the collector?

 Looking good J!!!
I had to work on the boss's Vue yesterday..waterpump pulley bolts came out... which took out the belt..which left her on the side of the road.. which I had to load up and bring to the house and fix. It's all good though..keep the her rolling good. Never seen the bolts just come out though..weird. it was the factory pump, so it lasted a while!!

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Engine bay full prepped, anyone see what I missed? Here I am the guy trying to teach and I still miss stuff.......... I get excited when its time to drop the engine in the bay and sometimes get ahead of myself

I looked and all I could find was the driver side fender well. You either forgot to put it in or forgot to take the passenger side out.



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The fender skirts are both still in place, no need to remove them if the engine is going in with the headers on

I forgot to install the trans cooler lines before I dropped the engine in!!
I had to fish them in from under the truck, which I have done many ties before it is just a huge PITA when they could have just been resting in place! Like I said I get excited :)

I think its cool you fixed your boss' Saturn Vue.... I am not shocked that bolts on a Saturn would back out, I mean......Saturn AKA GM
I also think its cool you lay carpet and your boss is a woman? This is cool because my wife runs a carpet/flooring business and all of her installers are dudes. She used to kick in rug, she did for many years, until she ran the place, she started her shop in 1997



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