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Posted: Fri Oct 5th, 2018 11:57 pm

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On this work truck 93 2.3 5-Speed the shifter is quite sloppy. I actually did the clutch about 10 years ago and it still seems good but the shifter is pretty bad. It was bad back then. I replaced something on it when I did that clutch but it's been so long since I forgot what it was. I know that the pinch bolt nut was missing when I did that. I see Dorman offers a shifter kit for it but I'm not sure what the parts are in the kit. Also the knob has gone missing again. I don't drive it. I actually never got the hang of driving it because I've always had automatics. I did do the whole clutch job and everything worked on the first time. No overnight bleeding, I remember that. My father uses it as a work truck but the shifter is pretty bad and might need some attention. Without having to remove the transmission is there anything to do that might fix it?

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Posted: Sat Oct 6th, 2018 04:01 am

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Majority of the time, this will be all you need to remedy that sloppy shifter. Shifter kit

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Agreed!
The dorman shifter fix kit with new nylon bushings and top cover is the ticket!
Make sure you put trans in N, then remove shift lever, install new parts (you have to press metal pin out a bit) and bolt lever back down with trans still in N

Every 5 speed I do gets new a shifter kit......

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Posted: Fri Mar 15th, 2019 11:42 pm

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i got a hurst for mine, at the time i needed replacement bushings, they were only available from ford. my hurst is on its 2nd truck now. yeah its expensive, but its a nice upgrade. almost as nice as swapping out a 3.45 rear end for a 4.10 one

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I used the Hurst Kit also, but the Shift Lever is too short for me.
I ordered a longer Lever but didn't like the positioning so I made an adapter to move the lever one inch higher and back an inch... now I like it, and it is a Hurst Shifter, well at least it says so !

When I would go in for a Sticker back in MA, the Tech would always say how great the Shifting felt; I like it !

I would buy the Hurst Kit again if the need ever arose.

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I put a extension on mine too, basically a threaded 3/8-16 connector for all-thread. Maybe about 2â€ total gained length overall. Running a Jeep Wrangler shift knob. Have a short piece of heater hose covering the extension.

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Posted: Sat Mar 16th, 2019 10:08 am

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I just used 1/4" Flat stock, 2"x 2", cut at an angle to reduce the amount of steel added. (Cant find any pictures of the adapter, funny I take pictures of everything else).
My Knob started off with the Hurst Standard Knob but I changed it out for a Larger Aluminum 8-Ball.
I need to get pictures of this stuff.

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I just bought a Dorman shifter repair kit too for our 1993 2.3 5-Speed. It's been beaten pretty good over the years and now has either 300,000-400,000 miles on the original drivetrain. It only has the 5 digit odometer, had it since it was new, so lost count. The engine, transmission, or rear end doesn't leak any oil at all. Just did finally replace the original coil packs. I cleaned them off and couldn't believe we've never had them changed. My 98 2.5 automatic has already gone through an engine, couple transmissions, rebuilt rear end several times, and everything still leaks. Anyhow the 5-speed shifter on this 93 is really bad. I was watching the videos on youtube but of all the videos I watched no one seemed to know where the rubber dust seal goes. Mine actually came with 2 dust seals and 2 bushings. I called Dorman and they said there should only be one. They weren't really sure where the dust seal goes either. They just referred me to the instructions that came with it which says in the last step to install the dust seal but doesn't show where it goes. The black/white photo illustrations are horrible too. Which way do the bushings go in, since they are usually all gone? How difficult is it to get those pins out? I want to be prepared because I'll have to have it in and out the same day because it's being used as a daily driver for awhile.

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the pins press out quite easily
Install the new parts in the reverse order the old ones come out
The only dust shield I know of is the metal plate with bonded rubber washer that goes over the top?
You can do this!

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I might try to do this shifter kit today but I'm still waiting on a shifter knob to come in, but not sure if it's the right one. I took apart a shifter in the salvage yard today just to see what it takes. It seems fairly easy. A little akward getting out the old pins if they're kind stuck. I didn't have a punch with me but was able to get the ones out in the salvage yard pretty quick. When I took it apart in the salvage yard I didn't see any bushing left, but saw a spring washer at the bottom where the bushing should be. Didn't see any of the dust seals that came with the kit. So should there only be one spring washer? Are those bushings, keyed? The new bushings have notches in the bottom, maybe so they only go in one way, and then they have the cut out for the pins. Another part missing on ours was the shifter knob. I went looking for one but every Ranger there that had 5 speed was missing. I ordered a new one but it's the new style all black one for the 04+ Rangers. Will it still fit?

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Just for grins... do you have pictures of the kit, laid out !

Also, if your shifter is out, a picture of what came out with the stick !

I don't remember what came apart when I took mt trans apart, so I can't even start to make a comment without seeing more.

Other than the price, did you think on the Hurst Kit, believe me when you install the Hurst Kit, you will not believe the feel of the shifts.

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Didn't even need to. I did it today. Took about 10 minutes total. It actually wasn't even missing either of the bushings like all the videos I watched. This thing has 300,000 or 400,000 miles on. Not sure though because it only has 5 digits. Had it since 1993. It was just missing the eccentric bolt and nut. I replaced the bushings and pins anyway. Topped it off with the updated cheaper looking knob. It shifts like brand new now. Hope it will stay that way. Now I have to try and make it run good. It needs a ICM. Haven't done it because it's a daily driver and I don't want to break the little bolts holding it on unless I have a backup. It's also the original ICM that's been on there since 1993.

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Good to hear you got it done.

How does it shift now ?

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Shifts like new.

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