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 Posted: Tue Sep 18th, 2018 08:06 pm
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My wife is a public school teacher and has been at it for 30 years. Today she was confronted by her principal about a complaint from a parent and child. In her classroom they play games as part of learning exercises. One child told his parents that Mrs. X hurt him at school. She hurt his arm is the claim. The game involved taking someone in the classroom by the arm and twirling with them. It should be noted that Mrs. X does not put up with crap in her classroom, and the kid does not like her as she busts him quite often.

This 10 year old child is going around school telling all that Mrs. X will be fired and they, meaning his parents, are suing the school. The parents put these words into this kids head, they did not come from him, as words like this don't come from 10 year olds where we live. Of course this will not happen, however it is bold and troubling.

Our children are creating and inheriting a total societal mess. The children are running the show. Sounds like a cheesy horror film, however it is real. How is it that kids can call the shots without question, and the adults go along with it and applaud it? The lunatics have taken control of the asylum.

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The lunatics have taken control of the asylum.
Amen brother Jeff!



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Today's generation of young adults is where I place the blame. When I was a kid if I fucked up I got my ass beat. It taught not to do stupid   and taught me respect. But today's baby boomers are scared to beat their kids ass when they   up. Today's youth are a bunch of spoiled punks that aren't taught by the parents they have no motivation no respect and no ethics. And it's all due to the parents are afraid to go to jail for disciplining there children. My parents taught me if you want earn it. I started greasing coal trucks and changing semi tires for the trucking company my dad worked for when I was 12 cause I wanted a four wheeler. When i was 15 i bought with my own money my first ranger cause u didnt want to drive my dads old Thunderbird. So if these millenials would nut up and beat some ass this place would be a lot better. Sorry if this offends anyone it's just my point of view and I mean no disrespect to anyone on this page



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http://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/2018/09/18/lawn-mower-parents-are-new-helicopter-moms.html

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I'm a lawn mower parent. I have 3 sons and 2 lawn mowers. The 2 oldest have to use them to mow the yard.

I yell at them if they don't check the oil and fuel before they mow.

That is an interesting article I see this all the time, and have for years actually. It is more prevalent these days but has always existed. Used to be only the semi wealthy parents but I see it in all money classes these days.



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I make my daughter mow the front yard. My son is to young yet but in a few years he will inherit the handle of the push mower. My one neighbor said to me one day that it was morally wrong for me to have my kids shoveling snow last winter. So I said I bet your kid is playing video games and has no clue as to what a shovel even is let alone the brain capacity to know how to use it. My son is 10 and every 3000 miles he changes the oil in my truck and my wife's truck and hes been doing it since he was 8.



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Sadly, its cause their not our children.. We only have the benefit of them; and buy benefit of them I mean, cloth, shelter, cart them around, feed them, and claim them on your taxes.

as someone else stated, discipline is now misconstrued as abusing or "beating" your child. Far as I am concerned.. It was ME and all my efforts that created them [I promise you that part] and she [the mother] carried them for 9 mos.. therefore I should have all the rights to churn that/those child(ren) into working productive individuals so long as they dont get harmed.

That thing called an ass is only meant to be used for two things. Keeping you from falling into the toilet and getting your attention when your   up. My parents did it, BOTH sets. And if I DONT fulfill my responsibilities as a pay-rent.. then the State tends to deal with them in much harsher manners.

Clearly you can look at the what the Government provides when it comes to "services" offered. Foster care, Welfare, child support, and 90% of the other programs designed to tear down the family unit. but that's ok.. its Government

Last I checked 71% of the population has stated they don't trust government.. why do we still let them control so much of our personal lives? Life was much better 25+ years ago or more IMO. Family traditions are trashed.. divorce rate is 1-2, all this technology meant to enable man to be better.. Its made us unconscious to everything but bullshit and dribble and lazy to boot. Everyone looking for a shortcut to everything.., and its not even the shortcut. The fact that the shortcut becomes more important than the lesson tells me there pussies.



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Interesting term "Lawnmower Parent". I suppose my wife and are were the blades of grass. We both know that struggle breeds strength and character. If a child does not experience failure, does not experience struggles in his upbringing, how will he deal with failure on the job, or with his spouse? If he is not allowed to struggle, how will he be able to stand tall and persevere to the end when it is required?
I am looking forward to leaving this ol' world behind as it is changing into something I do not want any part of.

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Reason this is happening can be summed up quickly....it's because, it's what society wants, society created this and keeps it alive. Same can be said about the people living on the streets with mental health problems, drug addiction/dependency, and frequently, both problems. We call them *homeless*, probably because such a cuddly word won't discourage sympathetic enabler.....oops, I mean, donor from giving them the means to live the lifestyle that they choose.

I have friends who have been educators all their lives, some crossing the 40 year mark. Their positions vary from teachers (K-12) to Superintendent to administrators. Their hands are tied because.....we have created and funded what society wants. Kids in kindergarten today telling teacher to "fUuckk you", "fUuckk off ashhole/bitccccch", running around the room tearing things off the walls. Single moms on welfare with kids who have come to kindergarten having never met their father, much less even know they have one. Again, this is what society wants and pays for it. Probably the best we as a society can to today is to fund capacity increases for jails and prisons. Besides, today they are the new mental health facilities all across America except for one small detail...........They were never set up to be mental health facilties and nobody wants to pay to treat the nuts locked up inside.

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My wife did 31 years in public schools. The last 20 in a upper middle class area. She had more problems there than when she was teaching rural, less-privileged students the first 11 years. Teaching was not a job to her, she had the "calling" for being a teacher.  She did not enjoy her last 3 years teaching in public schools because of the kids attitudes, they have gone to  . She still teaches but part-time at a historical site.



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CBB9M wrote:
Reason this is happening can be summed up quickly....it's because, it's what society wants, society created this and keeps it alive. Same can be said about the people living on the streets with mental health problems, drug addiction/dependency, and frequently, both problems. We call them *homeless*, probably because such a cuddly word won't discourage sympathetic enabler.....oops, I mean, donor from giving them the means to live the lifestyle that they choose.

I have friends who have been educators all their lives, some crossing the 40 year mark. Their positions vary from teachers (K-12) to Superintendent to administrators. Their hands are tied because.....we have created and funded what society wants. Kids in kindergarten today telling teacher to "fUuckk you", "fUuckk off ashhole/bitccccch", running around the room tearing things off the walls. Single moms on welfare with kids who have come to kindergarten having never met their father, much less even know they have one. Again, this is what society wants and pays for it. Probably the best we as a society can to today is to fund capacity increases for jails and prisons. Besides, today they are the new mental health facilities all across America except for one small detail...........They were never set up to be mental health facilties and nobody wants to pay to treat the nuts locked up inside.

Ahhhh but you miss the point.. ALL of the government agencies are raking in the currency like they cant get enough of it. The whole plan or agenda has been to tear down and apart the family unit itself. City/County/State/ and even the Federal Gov make billions of dollars off of you and I just in every day contracts and commerce. Tear the family's apart early, get the women to accept the Gov services, charge the fathers (pay-rents), create problem children whether behavior, drugs, medical/insurance bleeding, child grows up troubled - predetermines future of the child; as in early teen pregnancy participant repeating the process all over again and or jail/prison, or worse.. Police assisted suicide.

Meanwhile fathers ruined financially, emotionally, family-unit.. cycled continues again again and again because people continue to ask for services they think are free to them because "The government is here to help you" lie..

Here's how stupid the   is.. I got a guy on my staff who lives with his woman and daughter, the agency rep for child support told the girl "if you say he doesn't live with you, we can get you MOARR benefits.." So whats these two dip shits do? They agree, he lives in the home setting as a family unit, pays child support that goes to her > less the States cut, then they get coupons for welfare food.

I told him you are a dumb  . The State created a problem, offered you a bullshit solution in order to become a middle man in your finances PLUS they are intertwined in all of your family affairs v. you taking that same money and going to the grocery store..!!

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If you look at history the massive downfall of our educational system is when the federal government got involved. Jimmy Carter was responsible for the creation of the Department of Education.



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Undrstm8ed, that infuriates me! Those two are a-holes and always will be.

I was a teacher, but was wise enough to get the heck out early on. The integration of special ed students into the regular ed classroom did it for me as the reg ed kids could not be justly served and educated while I planned everything around the emotionally impaired kids in the classroom.
The child my wife is dealing with comes from a intact 2 parent home. They are raising the kid like an add-on, not a loved child. He is emotionally impaired, a holy terror in the school and all the teachers are afraid of him, even the principal. Lone exception is my wife. She does not take guff from any kid.
Anyway, for the first time in her tenure she is having a parent-principal-teacher meeting for this kid. I hope it goes well. I told her to stand her ground and do not apologize, and tell the parents with the principal and union rep present what this kid does in her classroom. I am to the place where I have told her to seriously think about moving on from teaching.

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Some familiar names will come back to mind for those who remember their child hood and or liked to read. However, pay close attention around the 4:00 mark as it describes the new education system and why... and again at 5:00 and then sit back and relate that to what we're seeing today mind you.





"The schools must fashion the person, and fashion him in such a way, that he simply cannot will otherwise than what you wish him to will." - Yohan Flinch; Father of the American Education System

"Education should aim at destroying free will so after pupils are thus schooled they will be incapable throughout the rest of their lives of thinking or acting otherwise than as their school masters would have wished... When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for more than one generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen" - Yohan Flinch; Father of the American Education System






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