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I'm really lost on this one. I haven't waxed a car since I was 20. I remember the paste that you rubbed on, let it dry and rub off. Go ahead with the karate kid references that is exactly how it was.

I have been in stores looking for wax and I don't see anything I even recognize. I bought some liquid black sheen crap back when I bought that black ranger to sell and it did not even approach the finish I remember from the pastes.

Does anyone wax their own car any more and if so what do you use AND does the "wax on wax off" stuff I'm used to still exist?

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I use a paste wax from Mcguire's. It's easy to buff off once it dries. The results will speak for themselves. It's like $10-$15 per can and you can buy it anywhere

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I ude a liquid, can't remember the name off hand. A wax and and buff off type. Does an excellent job. Meguiars, Chemical Guys, they all will have a decent wax. Asking for favorites is like starting an oil discussion...

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I ude a liquid, can't remember the name off hand. A wax and and buff off type. Does an excellent job. Meguiars, Chemical Guys, they all will have a decent wax. Asking for favorites is like starting an oil discussion...
The best way to go about this is to pick up a few different kinds and start waxing eventually you will find a wax that works for you. But the easiest wax job is the one that someone else does for you

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NU finish is excellent at removing oxidation and its also cheap and easy to use.
I use a spray wax after washings to keep the paint protected
If it has been a long time and the vehicle needs it you could consider a 3 part process, a cleaner, wax and sealer....

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On a newish vehicle I will use meguiar's carnauba paste and rewax when water does not bead any more. Usually at least twice a year. On my Ranger I use NuFinish 2000 once a year. But the Ranger's finish was shot before it became my daily driver so I am not that worried about it.

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black06xlt wrote:
The best way to go about this is to pick up a few different kinds and start waxing eventually you will find a wax that works for you. But the easiest wax job is the one that someone else does for you

So very true! But I am fundamentally too cost effective to pay for this. My son says that means I am cheap. I'll stick to my definition.

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If the trucks paint finish is a little hazy looking or has a "film" on it after washing, then I highly recommend a cleaner wax. Much easier than using a rubbing compound.

For any coats after that initial coat, use a normal carnuba paste. Whatever brand you prefer..

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A Mother's Powerball makes for a quick "wax on".

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I use products from Ammo nyc. They are a little pricey but are good quality.

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Cool thanks, if it is good enough for a Ferrari then it is good enough for a..... Ford-rarri LOL. I'll look in to it.

https://www.ammonyc.com/detailing/wax-and-sealant/

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I use Turtle Wax carnauba wax AFTER a thorough wash and claybaring. I use an orbital buffer to apply the wax and once dry, microfiber towels to buff it off and a soft bristle toothbrush around badges and such. My last wax job took over 6 hours.

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Wheres madmaxx on this subject?

Nanoskin auto scrub is the new clay bar. Menzerna polymer sealant is good for 6months and goes on easy. When my truck goes in for its day of beauty that's the stuff they use. I think it works great.

Those dang running boards piss me off when the rest looks so good

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I've seen those claybar alternatives. Just haven't tried them.

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A very popular product in the detailing world due to longevity and ease of use is Collinite 845 Insulator Wax. Very easy to apply and remove and gives you a strong long lasting finish similar to that of a sealant all while providing a nice glossy wet look of a carnauba Wax. This is a great wax to use for right before winter hits due to its durability - especially up here in the salt land lol. https://www.autogeek.net/collinite-insulator-wax-845.html

I second what Bird76Mojo said above about using a cleaner wax if the truck has a bit of road film or hasn't been stripped & decon hasn't been done in a while. Here is a tip - most waxes sold on the shelf at a parts store or Walmart are a "cleaner" wax. To get the maximum bond to the paint, you will want to remove the bonded contaminates in the paint with an iron remover as well as clay bar.

I'm a Meguiar's guy myself because of their history & you can get their products just about anywhere. If you just want a paste wax for the "wax on wax off method" I highly recommend the Paste Wax from Meguiar's Ultimate line. Their Ultimate line of products are some of the best that you can get from a retail store. Reviews and info can be found here: https://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-ultimate-paste-wax.html

If you are looking for the easy way to "wax" the truck, I'd check out Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax. It is a very simply product to use with basically no effort as long as you follow the directions (This is key because some people have reported issues with removal if done incorrectly). You can get a couple months out of it with some good results. The process is so simply you could do it after each wash if you wanted. The best part it is sold on just about every box store shelf that carries detailing products. Here is what you would be looking for as well as some info and reviews on it: https://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-hybrid-ceramic-wax.html

If you want some more ideas or have any other questions just shoot me a PM. I have a detailing business, I might be able to give you some insight on what might work best in your situation.

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I'm liking the hybrid ceramic wax. Gonna get some of that to use after washing. Just one question: does it have any adverse effects if you get it on your windshield? Streaking/fogging?

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mhoward wrote:
I'm liking the hybrid ceramic wax. Gonna get some of that to use after washing. Just one question: does it have any adverse effects if you get it on your windshield? Streaking/fogging?
Something like the hybrid ceramic wax doesn't bond as well to surfaces like glass since it is a different surface composition than paint. Could it bond? Yes but not nearly as well as the painted surface of the vehicle. If you are worried about getting some over spray on the glass and it causing an issue, I wouldn't be too concerned. As long as you do hit the area with a strong stream of water and do not let the product dry to the surface anywhere, you should be fine.

Fun tip with windows because EVERYONE hates doing them myself included:

Use any window cleaner of your choice. Sprayway & Stoner Invisible Glass are popular choices but brand doesn't matter.
Use a Waffle Weave Microfiber Towel - the weaves in the towel will pull the dirt out instead of smearing it across the glass
Pick up a Spray Wax of choice. I use Meguiar's Detailer Line products but any spray wax will work. This is sold anywhere: https://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-spray-wax.html
Spray the glass with a spritz or two. Use a Plush Microfiber Towel to spread the wax out across the glass, flip it over and buff it off.

I've had great luck with this process by eliminating any streaking or smearing while doing glass. By going over the glass with the spray wax it will clean up the smears as well as provide a hydrophobic surface inside & out which makes it easier to clean for the next time. And since it would be waxed on the outside, yes water will bead off of it.

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That is an interesting solution for streak-free glass (which is very difficult to obtain). Gonna give it a try soon!

You should PM JAMMAN or Chris and request a new tech section be set up for DETAILING. You have a lot of knowledge to share in that area! I watch things on YouTube like The Detail Geek and Car Cleaning Guru. They have a lot of good info as well. :-)

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mhoward wrote:
That is an interesting solution for streak-free glass (which is very difficult to obtain). Gonna give it a try soon!

You should PM JAMMAN or Chris and request a new tech section be set up for DETAILING. You have a lot of knowledge to share in that area! I watch things on YouTube like The Detail Geek and Car Cleaning Guru. They have a lot of good info as well. :-)

I have another one to add to your YouTube list - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVlOAVbs8QbHMmKdVWTleaQ - These videos actually gave me the boost I needed to go to the next step and start my business. Although it is a side business, I was met with a very high demand and it took off like a wildfire. What I like about him is he understands that you don't need the most expensive product to achieve great results. Getting the most out of what is readily available and cost efficient is what makes you the money at the end of the day.

Scott has boat loads of valuable information and tips for everyone from the DIY guy to the professional detailer. There are so many real world product reviews & comparisons. He even has his own line of products that I plan on getting into this year. I've been following his Facebook group and the results seem fantastic when considering the cost effectiveness of his products.

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Thanks for the link! I am a frugal b*tch LOL and am all about getting results with less expensive products. I am of the mindset that not everything has to cost a fortune to be good!

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Thanks for the link! I am a frugal b*tch LOL and am all about getting results with less expensive products. I am of the mindset that not everything has to cost a fortune to be good!
Exactly. If you watch some of those videos, you will see how far products such as Super Clean or Purple Power that cost under $8 for a gallon can go lol. There are some excellent products sold right on the shelf at the local auto parts store or Walmart that are relatively cheap. The Meguiar's Ultimate Line being one of them. I'd still be using the majority of the products if it wasn't that Meguiar's Detailer Line products are more cost effective because I can buy in bulk lol. I will say that the product composition between both lines are very similar if not identical on some products and that they have been basically rebranded lol. The website autogeek.net is a great place to find some good products as well. Just be careful, your cart can add up quick - ask me how I know lol. Good news is they are constantly offering sales with 20-25% off your order along with free products and such - easy way to try stuff out. Of course Amazon is another go to as well.

I haven't had time to detail my Ranger since I got it - been busy with acquiring parts for the rear frame swap and spending time with my family but here are a couple shots from a FX4 I did in the past. The pictures don't do this thing justice - it was bad lol. Underneath the seats were filled with spider webs and such lol.

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JAMMAN - I used the Collinite 845 on this Ranger to achieve the shine shown in the after picture

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Meguiars for the wife's Audi and the ElectraGlide. My paint and clearcoat is dead on the Ranger. Too much pealed clearcoat and rub through on the paint underneath.

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Cheap Harbor Freight paint gun: $15.00
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I always have used the Turtle Wax products, their Ice Product was a good one but their basic paste was always the go to.

Now that this Ceramic Wax is out there, I want to look at it before buying ore Turtle Wax.

Have to watch some videos on Ceramic Wax before buying one the other.

Also need to check out Clay Barring !

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