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 Posted: Sat Jun 1st, 2019 11:14 am
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Does anyone have solid or drawing info on the actual size an bolt locations for the 5.0 motors? Would be nice to have a solid model of the expo fitted 5.0, would clear up many guesses and help with designs of just about all accessories. I'm sure someone at ford has a STL or X_T file laying around.

1. Are the surfaces the motor mounts bolt to parallel to the plane of the oil pan mount surface? (are they the same level or offset)

2. Does anyone have the actual number for the spread of the motor mount holes right to left?

3. Where are the motor mount holes actually located in reference to the trans mount surface?

4. Distance between crank and cam bores?

5. Deck height relative to crank?

Who would I talk to, I'm sure this is not proprietary info these blocks have been around for years.



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I have some books here that should have that info



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you can always buy a mock up SBF engine,   $400+ for a foam engine block! Sometimes they pop up cheaper.......



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Hmmmm they do have to make the sand mold.... That would do it for size but would not have the machined hole locations.

I'm going to work on a head with a broken screw (I have a hole popper EDM at work) for a guy I bought some exhaust parts from (I am going somewhere with this). He just sliced up an expo and still has the engine cradle with the motor mounts sticking up.

It will be ultra easy to determine the exact spread of the studs and the height from the frame, I also have access to a small portable cmm arm. I think we badly need more mount plate options and different options for other mount types especially for the coil spring 2wd crowd. There is no concise definitive numbers ANYWHERE. People just get 4.0 mounts (which some have the same number as the 2.5 mounts) which is confusing... a set of "Ricks Plates" which I own 2 sets neither lined up what I consider perfectly and slap it in grinding and hammering.

*** END OF RANT LOL ***



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Build some engine mounts!! Its not that hard LOL I do it the old hang the engine in there and get all the angles right, then mock up with cardboard/wood/clay, etc....

Looking forward to see what you come up with.



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I wish I had one of these:
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/P-Ayr-Products-3020-Ford-302-Set-Up-Block,7442.html?sku=91087300&utm_medium=CSEGoogle&utm_source=CSE&utm_campaign=CSEGOOGLE



Foam 302 short block with all the holes ready to go for mock up



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As long as there are 4 holes for bolting the oil pan to what a thing that is.



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yes you can bolt everything to the engine block thats needed for clearances, oil pan, heads, mounts, timing cover, foam transmission LMFAO!!...whatever is needed for fitment
They make these for just about all engines
if you are lucky enough sometimes they come up for sale used on the mustang and EB forums.....



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HEY GUYS I HAVE A 2000 FORD RANGER 2WD 5.0 SWAP FORM A 1997 HAVING STARTING PROBLEMS I HAVE CRANK BUT NO START WHAT DID YOU GUYS HAVE TO DO WITH THE WIRING TO GET IT STARTED ITS A COMPLETE TRUCK BUT WON;t crank

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Check for spark
Check fuel pressure at the rail 
97 5.0 has two fuel lines
2000 Ranger has one fuel line

How many fuel lines does the truck have?
2 fuel lines (return style fuel) = 38 psi rail pressure
1 fuel line (returnless) = 64 psi fuel rail pressure

Do you have a theft light? Does it flash rapidly or go out when cranking?



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good morning i ran a return line and yes the anti theft light is blinking but the 97 does not have pats but its the pats on the truck  not let voltage to get thru the truck any ideas on how to get around this

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