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You ain't exactly a slouch on wrenching dude you have done some stuff too.



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I always feel like I do everything the hard way.  Would love to dismantle an Explorer and resurrect a Sport Trac.  Keep posting pics 410, I'm trying to learn as you go.  Same for you Jamman...you guys are my online car club.

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Dewalt makes several 1/2" drive impacts, this one is the big 20V unit can remove nuts that are up to 1300 ft lbs! So far so good, it makes short work of even Superduty lug nuts and it had no issue with an Explorer CV axle nut! This is good news because those CV axle nuts are a PITA.

My shop is a teaching shop, we do lots of hands on stuff if customers want to learn.

The Sport trac "conversion" portion has begun.
The donor explorer was an early 98. This means the 5.0 has welded exhaust manifolds, the crappy fluid to fluid oil cooler, and it has return style fuel (two fuel lines).

First the donor 98 was put back together, the bad sohc engine was placed under the hood and the front clip bolted back on, this makes it easier to go on the trailer for crushing


Cast exhaust manifolds, they are very restrictive power wise and known to crack and develop leaks


Lower radiator hose / factory oil cooler. When these fail you mix water with oil. The 99+ trucks did not have this, instead they use a one piece lower radiator hose and a special oil filter mount. We will be using the 99 style mount and hose.


96-97.5 5.0L has two fuel lines (return style fuel) 


Best part, Ford reman transmission!






We will be swapping the manifolds to the later cast style.
We will be removing the oil filter / oil cooler and using the 99-01 style oil filter mount

The sport trac in 2001 (first year) uses returnless fuel
We will be using a 2001 style fuel rail and injectors.
I prefer returnless fuel as the fuel in the tank stays much cooler and this makes more power and better MPG

Next step is to detail the engine bay and clean the 5.0L drivetrain. The engine will be separated from the trans, engine put on a stand and refreshed with new gaskets and tune up parts. The transmission and converter will be drained 100% and fitted with a new filter.

Did I mention this donor drivetrain with only 104K miles also has a FORD REMAN 4r70w?! Yes sir at some point the 98 trans was replaced by Ford. In 1998 the 4r70w had a return program, if something failed early ford wanted to know about it and often times they would replace the whole trans just so they could have a look inside your 98 style 4r70w. This truck appears to be a lucky recipient of a newer 4r70w!

Did I mention I love the Sport Trac? Did I tell you that 2001 and white are my favorite?!?! Man I wish I could keep this thing. But I would have to give up my Bronco II I just cannot justify having that many vehicles.

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The sport trac in 2001 (first year) uses returnless fuel
We will be using a 2001 style fuel rail and injectors.

Dang dude you just hit a "spot" there, that's what I wanted to do to mine and got an entire novel with reasons why I shouldn't. So I decided to run a return and pipe it in to the filler hose being if I feed it in to the natural return that is where the pump is it would be blocked till it reached the higher pressure.

AND how did you get those fittings off? I bought a tool but mine were rusty and I ended up cutting them off on the original motor before the union and on the donor motor after the union. They have been soaking in brute blast for a year now maybe they would come off but if there is another way.... yes I know not to heat them with a torch.  :)



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Automakers converted to returnless fuel, why shouldn't we?

How did I disconnect the fuel line fittings? I have disconnect tools
Or do you mean how do we build fuel lines using factory fittings and 3/8" nylon line?



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I have a disconnect tool. I can't get it off with it.Maybe I have the wrong one which one do you use?

I got a set with like 6 different sizes.



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Oh man I have a drawer full
The ones that work the best on Fords are these:


I also have these:


I have had fuel lines that simply will not come apart in the past
Usually the little metal spring inside gets destroyed and we get them apart one way or the other. You can buy a replacement spring at most auto parts stores and bend it in there, with a new O ring the fitting is good as new

Sometimes you can cut a sharpie lid at the correct height (if you can picture it) that it will slide in there more easily then the tool and release the spring all the way around. It is like a chinese finger puzzle, you need to press the fitting together while pressing the tool in and sometimes twisting. Pliers can help.

The Gen II fuel fittings are a PITA
I prefer my 88 BII with the plastic pull out quick connectors. I love my 88 in so many ways, they were still basic........

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In your red case, the silver scissor looking one is the set I have. I have like 2 of the scissor sets and 2 smaller solid ones.

I'll get a set of the white ones and try them thank you again-



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JAMMAN wrote:
In your red case, the silver scissor looking one is the set I have. I have like 2 of the scissor sets and 2 smaller solid ones.

I'll get a set of the white ones and try them thank you again-

Same here. I hate using that scissor tool, but it works eventually.



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I use whichever one works at the moment! Sharpie cap works better then you guys might think for the really stubborn ones.

My good friend and trans builder in Colorado has a new toy, some sort of Ford scan tool that will program PATS keys.
I am headed to Colorado next week. While we are there I am going to replace a 5 speed transmission for a friend of mine (96 Ranger 4 banger we converted to 4.0 and 5 speed, his 5 speed took a crap! So in goes a 2005 M5OD-Hd) We will be doing this at my buddies shop since I now live 1300 miles away. Why is this relevant? Well because I will be taking the 98 5.0 PCM, the Sport trac pats module, pats key and ign lock cylinder so he can program the 01 ST key to work with the 98 5.0 PCM!! Cool eh?
This way no need to swap the door locks on the ST with the 98 explorer parts. So the sport trac one key will work with the 98 5.0 computer!

Progress on ST will be on hold until I get back from CO, labor day weekend work will resume.

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Need an update on the ST!

Also you mentioned a silver one, more my thing that white do you already have it?



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White sport trac is still in the shop. I took the V8 PCM, pats module and key to Colorado for tuning. Plan is to program the sport trac PATS key to work with the 98 V8 PCM, however two keys are needed. So we had to order some blank PATS keys and they are in the mail. Once the key gets here then we can do the programming (in Colorado)

Silver trac is here and also in shop!!
Needs 5r55e, replaced, timing chain tensioners, full tune up, and valve cover gaskets.
I am using some mechanical timing chain tensioners in this SOHC engine, ditching the hydraulic ones.

I will get pictures! Going over exhaust manifold options for the white v8 trac

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NOOOOOOOOO no V8 in the silver?



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We are still kicking the idea around
I do have a 152K mile drivetrain outsise 01 Limited 5.0
Each truck talks to you once in the shop
Don't worry there will be more V8 ST's

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Thinking of doing v8 into the silver one also now, been talking it over. The truck is worth more with a v8 then it is with the stock v6. I will start a thread for the silver truck.
One of these will be AWD and one will be 4x4, both will be 5.0L V8. The low mile truck will likely get some sort of exhaust manifolds/system.

Stay tuned! Kids back in school this week, firewood season is already happening = I get more time in the shop



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This little dude will make life easier, I'm calling it Hercules
1300 ft lbs breakaway power!!


Well I took the plunge yesterday and got me an impact:



20V, 1300 break away. Did just what I wanted it to. I went out to an explorer and in 10 seconds effortlessly backed both nuts off the front shafts. Didn't even feel the twist. Probably paid 100 more than 410 did for the same thing but I needed it BADLY.



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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH yeah I love new tools. I am sure you will find that sucker as handy as we find "Hank"
The Dewalt has taken on the name Hank around here and Hank is pretty dang handy and strong.

Installed a woodstove, building a huge carport, and gathering 12 cords of firewood for the coming winter season (coming quickly here) Also close no our first rental house this week...aside from that the parts for the sport trac are here!! Wooo hoooo!

New Dorman exhaust manifolds, cast style. $95 shipped is easier then trying to steal some from another engine or find some in the yard that will come free easily...so we are going to use these! Our donor engine is an early 98 so it has the old welded manifolds and I refuse to install those into our sport trac



Otherwise its just some simple tune up parts, remember before the donor truck was wrecked it was in my shop for a full tune up and fluid changes, with just 104K on the clock this drivetrain does not need much!
PArts are here
Sport trac is cleaned and prepped.
We can finally get back on the sport trac



Packard wire ignition wires (I love these sets, they hold up really well and wires are very good for the $$$ on rockauto)
Bosch air filter
Wix trans filter
Motorcraft plugs
We will also change out the fuel filter and pump, as well as all new fluids through out.
I also have a 2001 fuel rail and injectors to install on the 98 engine, I will be bench cleaning and testing each injector. Entire fuel rail will get new O rings.

Sport trac prep:
Drivers side engine mount was swapped out
V8 power steering cooler also installed
Now we will strip down/clean the 5.0 engine and trans and stab them into the truck

Stay tuned!

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So what ever happened to the swap? Did it get finished or put to the side?



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HA! plans changed, I am now KEEPING the sport trac for my own use/build SOOOO I yanked the 104K drivetrain back out and sold it to EddieMoney, we are now using it in his 07 Ranger....

However I have another drivetrain that will be going into this trac, a 306 (rebuilt 302) that I have been holding onto.

My stepson and I split our projects, he got one sport trac I got the other (we were 50/50 on everything but he had to get a full time job so)
There is a silver sport trac in the shop right next to Eddies 07 Ranger that is getting a low mile v8 conversion right now!

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That's a lot of extra 4.0L SOHCs. Lol



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you are telling me the entire 3rd bay of my shop is engines, transmissions, t cases and axles, there is even a dana 60 sitting over there right now. In Colorado I had built many massive shelves, a trans rack and engine stands in the carport.
Guess what I'm working on this fall? Yup shelving! Lots of it.
I ALWAYS have engines and transmissions sitting around, don't worry it is not long before a vehicle shows up that needs these parts....they gravitate towards me!!
I counted 6ea 5r55e transmissions yesterday.....only two of them are good the other 4 are going to CO with me as cores (my friend and builder is in CO)

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No updates on this project, I will be building it sometime around Christmas of 2021, this truck will become my new DAILY DRIVER!!!

But if you are looking for V8 sport trac info check this:

https://ford-rangers.com/forum49/1880.html



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