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 Posted: Sat Dec 28th, 2024 04:17 pm
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It's like 60 degrees and sunny in middle Ohio today, pulling the heads off the 3.0 green one that has been sitting now for a year.

IF $cracks THEN ($new_heads + $multiple_gaskets)

ELSE ($resurface + $multiple_gaskets)

For those mayo lovers that need to katchup, the plastic valve that switches water on and off to the heater core just busted mid flight on the highway at 70MPH AND the heat gauge did not tell me a thing. By the time I figured it out it was way too late.

This is like the thermostat housing on the 4.0 starting in 2001, I bet same plastic. I crumbled the rest in my hand when it cooled, it was turning into compost.



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So sorry to hear that. My wife & I drove my Ranger back to southwestern Virginia from southern NJ with almost no coolant in it & like you the temp gauge never said there was a problem.



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Yeah that sensor is in a stupid spot. The spring on the thermostat gets its heat from the water.  If the water doesn't get to the thermostat it doesn't open. If it doesn't open the heat sensor on the other side never sees the heat.

It works if the radiator is blocked or the fan clutch stops because it still has water. It needs to be somewhere toward the bottom hose of the radiator.



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If it is near the bottom hose then it will be measuring the temp of the cooled water leaving the rad - that is why they put it up top, usually just under the thermostat to measure the temp of water leaving the block.

There is normally a bypass to allow the water to circulate the block when the thermostat is closed - the gauge sensor needs to be in that circuit!



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The first day was OK, being older I forget stuff all the time.... like the fact that "things are sharp".




Today I did get somewhere. Heads look OK looks like it was truly just a part of the head gasket that self destructed when the temp got too high. Everything else looked fine.




Here is the spot that was spilling compression into the coolant, and when there was no compression it pushed fluid into the cylinder.




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When the heads on my 00 4.0L they cracked between the valves, look closely.



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Visible without removing the valves?



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Yep - just clean up the seats / bridge at the narrowest point.

Cracks on MGB heads happen the same and are easy to see once clean.




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That is exactly where the 4.0 heads cracked. It is a fuzzy pic but if you look closely about 1/2 way down between the valves you can see a crack. Both heads were cracked the same, l/s (drivers' side) head front cylinder, r/s (passengers' side) head back cylinder.




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Got to love those static gauges with the delayed reporting.. One of the best things the Maruader came with real-time output for the oil pressure and water temp guages.



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Additionally, cracking in engine heads between the valve seats is most commonly caused by excessive heat or thermal stress, usually due to overheating of the engine, which causes the metal to expand and contract rapidly, leading to cracks forming in the weaker areas between the valve seats.

I know you dont have that engine modded much if at all but loss or low coolant can cause issues as we all know. Thats why I always oversize the cooling and electrical capacities of nearly every vehicle I own. I cant see you hot dogging it from stop light to stoplight causing any rapid transitions from hot to cold operating temps..

Have you had any cooling system components fail like a water pump or clogged radiator can contribute to overheating recently? Could be a cooling system issue like coolant contamination, which can hinder cooling efficiency too. 

Or if you didnt have bad Irish luck, ya might not have any at all (???)



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I replaced both heads back in 2016 about 1 year after I bought the truck. I guess a PO overheated the engine because the engine started fouling out the front cylinder spark plug on the drivers side every few months.



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