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So I'm just starting to learn how to properly cook on a grip, and I've done really thin cheap steaks (cooked to rare and medium), burgers (came out really small) and just did pork chops (super thick, cooked too long). I was wondering if anyone would like to share some tips/tricks to make me better. Thanks to everyone who posts. :)  :cheers

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1. Have a decent grill to begin with.

2. Steaks, sear on both sides then turn the heat down. Watch them, a ribeye will cook faster than a strip because of the fat content... it will make its own fire.

3. I don't do chops on the grill.

4. Burgers... lower heat turn several times. They do get small but shouldn't get hard.

Do you like salmon? I do a salmon to kill for best my wife and I have ever had in any restaurant.



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I love salmon lol. Pretty much any fish but not a huge seafood guy. Fish and shrimp are about it. What's a decent grill? I have a Char-Broil 4 burner propane one. The pork chops were good today, but why don't you do them on the grill?



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I can't seem to get them right, well not to my wife's liking any way.

Salmon is easy. Buy fillets with SKIN ON.
Pre season BOTH SIDES with salt, pepper and a liberal amount of Old Bay seasoning... available in any department/grocery store. Heavier than you would think you would need.

Grill on high, put salmon skin side down. When skin is about 50% black turn it 90 degrees still skin side against grill. Wait till 100% black (most of the cooking is done on this side).

The directions say to put some veggie oil or spray pam on the grill, you can if you want but a good quality salmon fillet will produce enough grease through the skin not to stick.

When the skin is black, flip it over, like 3 or 4 minutes for stripes then turn it 90 still on the meat side to get that classic grill cross hatch, another 3 or 4 minutes.

A really thick fillet you might have to change the last step to 5 minutes each but watch out there is a fine line between done and dry.



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I'll also say for steaks, actually any meat not burgers, pull them early and let them rest under foil for ten minutes. You pull them a tad early because they will still cook some in that time.

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@JAMMAN I'm gonna have to get some salmon now lol.

@ORDINARYBIKER I never thought about that, but that's a good tip. Especially on cooking my grandmother's steak. She likes hers still breathing lol



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Cheap cuts are usually tougher - skip those unless you are doing a skirt steak for fajitas or have a tenderizing brine. Learn what marinades work with which cuts of meat. I like Moore's marinade with a 1" New York strip and salt/white pepper/dry mustard seasoning with 1" Ribeye. I don't like to cook thin steak on the grill as they easily overcook. Too thick of a steak can also be a problem. A dry rub on a tri-tip with a quick sear and then turn it when it is about 100-110 in the middle and cook until medium rare to medium and let it rest before you slice off thin strips with the grain. I also trim as much fat off as I can to reduce flareups. The less you turn beef and pork the moister it will be. Keep a squirt bottle of water to help control flare ups.

For burgers I use the leanest cut ground beef I can find. I also patty them 3 burgers to a pound. Salt, black pepper, tablespoon of Worcestershire or (A1 sauce), and a egg are blended in before I paddy them. 

As others have said, a quick sear and a lower temp to cook. Invest in a good meat thermometer. There is the direct heat method and indirect heat. Pork roasts, sausages, and ribs work better with an indirect heat and charcoal/wood fed fires. It is much longer process but you can get amazing results with smoke rings and fall off the bone tenderness.  

Skin on chicken needs to be brined, patted dry, seasoned with spices and a light coating of olive oil. Get the grill to the 375-400 temp range and turn legs and thighs every 5 minutes for 20-25 minutes until your thermometer tell you they have achieved 165 degrees. You can do this with wings as well but they cook fast. I generally split the breasts so they are thinner for quicker cooking.



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Best advice...cook to temperature. Regardless if you torch your food with a flame thrower or smoke it for hours at a time, know what temperature you're shooting for and cook to it. Your taste buds will thank you.

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1qaz wrote:
Best advice...cook to temperature.  Regardless if you torch your food with a flame thrower or smoke it for hours at a time, know what temperature you're shooting for and cook to it.  Your taste buds will thank you.
I was just gonna say.. Go to the local Hombre Depot.. Go to the BBG grill section and buy a digital meat thermometer. Most foods cook until about 165-170*.. Pork a little longer. like 175-180*

Next Make sure you thaw your meat to room temperature before cooking it.. In that sense this is a good time to setup your marinades too.

As for grill, I understand the convenience of gas grills but no bueno.. You can go on Craigslist, Freecycle, and other like sites and pick up an old weber grill for $10-15 if not free sometimes because someone sold them on "convenience" of gas grills. Ive personally thrown steaks literally on the fire at campsites, dusted off the flake of ash or two and they were great. But everything tastes better with charcoal, NO Gas/fuel needed.

If you know how to start your coals up separately in a coal starter than dumb them in a pattern in your Weber type grill you will start learning what the meats and veggies do. You can even smoke meat in a Weber better than some smokers.

My Swedish buddy made a rather interesting smoker out of a 4 drawer file cabinet tho..



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Just for reference:

Poultry:  165°

Fresh Beef, Veal, Lamb, Pork: 
   Rare  140°
   Med Rare  145°
   Medium  160°
   Well Done  170°

Fresh Ham:  160°
Cured Ham:  140°



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Steak, Hamburgers, good steak, bad steak, thin steak, or thick... all the same to me.

450-500 grille temperature on the grille.

Spray the Rack with a good quality Grilling Spray.

Put on the Meat, watch the top of the meat until a good amount of blood is coming out. ( I call it Blood Rise)

Look at the under side if nice and browned grille marks... flip it !

Watch for the blood rise again and look at the cooking side for grille marks.

Meat should be around Med., maybe little less.

While waiting for the blood to rise, keep the cover closed.

Most meat works the same for me, thinner meat has a faster blood rise time and of course thicker meat is slower to blood rise !

The only time I look at the temperature of the meat is for the Grille Temp when starting, BUT if the meat is thick a Temp Probe might help some.

I have never used a Temp Probe but got one this year for my B-Day... from the Wife, maybe that is a hint !

Good Luck !



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Tsquare wrote:
Just for reference:

Poultry:  165°

Fresh Beef, Veal, Lamb, Pork: 
   Rare  140°
   Med Rare  145°
   Medium  160°
   Well Done  170°

Fresh Ham:  160°
Cured Ham:  140°

Something to think about !  Thx



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Scrambler82 wrote:
Steak, Hamburgers, good steak, bad steak, thin steak, or thick... all the same to me.

450-500 grille temperature on the grille.

Spray the Rack with a good quality Grilling Spray.

Put on the Meat, watch the top of the meat until a good amount of blood is coming out. ( I call it Blood Rise)

Look at the under side if nice and browned grille marks... flip it !

Watch for the blood rise again and look at the cooking side for grille marks.

Meat should be around Med., maybe little less.

While waiting for the blood to rise, keep the cover closed.

Most meat works the same for me, thinner meat has a faster blood rise time and of course thicker meat is slower to blood rise !

The only time I look at the temperature of the meat is for the Grille Temp when starting, BUT if the meat is thick a Temp Probe might help some.

I have never used a Temp Probe but got one this year for my B-Day... from the Wife, maybe that is a hint !

Good Luck !


Got a Marine buddy of mine, I don't know how he does it but you could give him   and some sauce and he'll turn that into  the best tasting meal ever. He cooks with a probe and never disappoints with his Webber grill which made me get one. Seafood, including shellfish, veggies, Steak, Chicken, ribs.. I don't care what hes making its ridiculous the efforts he goes through and better than any restaurant I've eaten at so far and a $45 meal isnt a rare thing for me at times.

I just wish he didnt move all the way to Wisconsin to be a Cheese-head-faggot.. lololol

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First... please e explain, "Cheese-head-faggot.. lololol" ?
Not criticizing, I just don't know !

My Son-in-Law is an Ex-Marine, or should I just say Marine, he uses the Temp Probe too and his Grille Work is well worth sitting down to, must be something they are teaching the Marines in Training !

I will be trying my luck with the "Weber Bluetooth Probe", stick it in and you get a call when it is at the correct temperature.   Sounds interesting, stick it in, walk away... and the WIFE wants me to give it a try.



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I am doing some boneless pork chops and a loin roast on the smoker tomorrow. I have set up a 1/2 cup salt brine for the chops and roast are soaking in overnight. I will take them out of the brine tomorrow morning. The roast will get dusted with Central BBQ Hot Rub that I got from their restaurant in Memphis before I put it on the smoker. I have some hickory that I cut a few months back for the smoking duty. The roast is for a buddy's birthday party on Saturday. It will be pulled pork by then.

The chops will get a light dusting of cinnamon and Emeril Essence before going on the grill. They will be slathered with baked apples when served.



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VelociRanger,

Have you tried any of the suggestions on Grilling ?

Just curious hoe things turned out !

Ltr

Tsquare,

The Pork Loin sounds great will have to try the Salt Brine Soak !

Thx

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I found a meat thermometer we had and I've used it every time since, made some bad a** pork chops the other day. I turned the heat down for some burgers and they turned out awesome as well. I have this season called Dales, and its great. Idk if y'all have heard of it or it's just a Texas thing, but y'all should try it. Other than that I've just been busy job searching so not a whole lot of grilling time



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I put the pork loin and some sausage on at 11. I pulled the sausage off at noon.

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I had to add more hickory at 1pm

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Hooooollllyyyy coooowwww (or pig lol)



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I pulled it off after 4 hours of hickory smoke. I cut it in half and wrapped it in tinfoil to finish it off in the oven at 200 degrees for another 4 hours. I had a nice little smoke ring. A half will make 6 or 7 pulled pork BBQ sandwiches. I have put the other smoked half in the freezer and will pull it out in a couple of weeks.

The dark green item next to the loin is a serrano pepper. I have a mild tomato based bbq sauce that I will add this pepper and blend it in. That should give the sauce a smoky heat.

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Thanks for all the tips!! My girlfriend loves my grillin :cheers



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Good looking steaks and cool looking knife.



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Thanks. The steaks were those marked down specials because it expired the day we bought it so I had to cook it a little more done than I would've liked, but they were still good. 2 good sized steaks for $6? Heck yeah I'll take it. The knife is from Walmart and it's one of the best knives I've ever owned. I'm a huge knife guy, I can talk to you for hours about which blade steel is good and which is alright, and always looked down on Walmart knives, whether they've been pocket knives, hunting knives, or kitchen knives but I've been impressed with this one.



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I didnt see anyone else mention this. For burgers and steaks, I cook till the blood goes clear then flip.



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