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As you know I'm 5 speed swapping my 98 using a 2000 as a donor. I have removed all the parts for the Pat's and installed and wired in my 98. With the exception of 1 wire. It's a blue/orange wire coming from the Pat's module. The only parts of the 2000 donor I have left is the dash harness cuz I thought it would be a good idea to haul the donor in for scrap. I was able to trace the wire in the dash harness to the big plug on the left lower corner of the firewall.from there I'm guessing the wire in question goes out under the hood. I'm getting a crank no start. I read where pats when activated shots off fuel pump and injectors. I found in a Haynes manual wiring diagram a blue/orange wire coming from the fuel pump relay to a 20a fuse that says fuel system anti theft hot at all times. Could this be the wire in question?

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Dang! I will get the book out and look that wire up for you

Do you have power at the red wire at any injector with key on?

yes pats disables the injectors on this year
let me go look see that wire right now before I have to take the kids to school LOL

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Do you have the theft light wire also? dark Blue with light green is theft light, did you hook up theft light? Is it flashing?

I do NOT have a blue / orange wire in the pats module wiring diagram.
My book is 2000 Explorer. I will keep digging are you 100% sure it is blue/orange? Dark blue? We WILL get to the bottom of this.
In the meantime check your power wires, the pats module MUST have the correct power wiring, if you tap into the cig lighter or radio for power check your fuses.......

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My book was a 2000 ranger and it too did not have that color wire. I just got an emphatic text saying it runs though. :) Spoiler alert

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Also you can stick the 98 pcm in there and see if it fires just for testing

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We must be brothers I said that too.

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I just heard over text its running
the dark blue with orange wire was removed at some point in 99, it is a constant power feed.
I found the wire in a 98 Mustang PATS diagram LOL

CONGRATS!!! So glad you got it running!! 5 speed = fun

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I will post the diagrams I found. But yeah the good folks at FoMoCo did it again. But i highly recommend http://www.bbbind.com it's a great site for wiring diagrams. That's where i found this wire.

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Proof again that the year it says on the title isn't always the year the parts came from.

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I made a post about this wire and added a link to the web site I found the diagram on

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Thanks again guys for your help on this. I here by make Jamman and 410customs members of the month

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It is an honor to be placed in that location, thank you.

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Teamwork!! It is nice to be in the information age where we can get these answers so easily! Back when I did my first 4.0 and 5 speed conversion I had much help...but it wasn't all online yet, I had to get help from local people!! It took ALOT longer..... the truck ran because I had help with wiring from a old ranger enthusiast, it took me and my friend Brett 2 years to get the wiring sorted out 100% and make it right....after that I have been helping others where I can. Give back for what I had been given so to speak
Can't wait to see the conversion all done!
I will always remember the feeling of letting the clutch out for the first time in my BII with the new to me ohv 4.0 and 5 speed, I was so impressed! The old 2.9 just had nothing on the bored and stroked torque monster 4.0 ohv

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Really all that is left is put the transmission in drive shafts take the full length expo console out and replace it with a mid length console and weld the y-pipe back together

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That's all? Half a day for you :)

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That damn wire kinda set me back a little. I was to the point to where I was gona cut it up

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black06xlt wrote:
That damn wire kinda set me back a little. I was to the point to where I was gona cut it up
Lol. We need to take that grinder away from you! You are always millimeters from cutting it up it seems. Glad you persevered. We have some very knowledgeable and helpful members! Thanks JAMMAN and 410Customs for helping black06xlt save one more ranger!

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