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The engine/trans/transfer case is bolted in!

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Had to slot the holes and cut a good bit of the metal out.

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Okay, I had to actually hold my laptop UPSIDE DOWN to make sense of that first picture! LMAO

Nice! It's coming together! :-)

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Okay, I had to actually hold my laptop UPSIDE DOWN to make sense of that first picture! LMAO

Nice! It's coming together! :-)

I still don't know why my XR iphone does that to me

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I suppose you could stand on your head for the next photo and see if that helps! LOL

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I suppose you could stand on your head for the next photo and see if that helps! LOL
I'll have to take a picture at each angle to see if that works lol!

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The engine/trans/transfer case is bolted in!

I love this shot. I think it looks really cool upside down. I hope they dont fix it....

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Eddie Money wrote:
4.0power wrote:

The engine/trans/transfer case is bolted in!

I love this shot. I think it looks really cool upside down. I hope they dont fix it....
Maybe it'll make the forums home screen slide show lol!

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That would be cool to film it all going back together and play with the footage...ðŸ¤ª

It looks cool rightside up but it kinda blows my mind upside down....

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Set up a digital camera and set it for delay stop action shots. I had a guy on one of my Satellite install teams who would set up his camera every morning. Installing a 6 meter dish would be about a 4 minute presentation with a half second on each photo that in real time was 7 seconds apart (some of it got edited out). It would be interesting on an engine swap start-to-finish.

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why is there electrical tape on one plug wire? Please tell me you are gonna replace the wires LOL
Awesome progress! I know how I'm doing my next conversion.......cab off frame

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why is there electrical tape on one plug wire? Please tell me you are gonna replace the wires LOL
Awesome progress! I know how I'm doing my next conversion.......cab off frame
I may or not have sliced a wire a little...... didn't slice to the conductor
I made new trans cooler line, SO easy with the cab off.

moog outter tie rod boots make great steering shaft boots!

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New tranny lines and heat block on them.

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And I'm calling it a day

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Dang Dude! You made a sh*t tonne of progress! Good job! :thumbsup:

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Dang Dude! You made a sh*t tonne of progress! Good job! :thumbsup:

Thanks man! I'm hoping by the end of today I'm gona possibly turn the key and see what happens....

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wicked cool progress! Got the cab back on already nice!!

Now this AM I went back through the thread to see what wires I need to lookup
and I see this:

the 4406 I got has no output shaft speed sensor like the 4404 that's on the trans still.

What year is the 5.0 PCM? I'm guessing its a 97-97.5 since your old awd t case had a speed sensor
The 5.0 IS expecting to see a VSS signal from that transfer case so it can shift the auto trans properly

So there are two possible paths from here:
Add VSS to the 4406. (I have done this, it is possible using parts from earlier 4406)
or
BUY the Dakota Digital universal speedometer correction device and we should be able to get the VSS signal we need for the pcm from this.
It will also be needed to make your 2002 truck happy. I am going through this RIGHT NOW on the 2002 sport trac v8 thread.
Your truck is the same

You see in 2002 the v6 speedometer, cruise and ABS all get the speed sensor signal (VSS) from the OSS axle AFTER it is "buffered" by the V6 pcm.
Well you just removed the V6 pcm, so the correct VSS signal for your speedometer, abs, cruise is not there.
The dakota digital box ($100+/- on summit) will perform the buffering function for us.
The v8 PCM does not do these "buffering" calculations. In the explorer the ABS module does the speedo "buffering"

Same as the 02 sport trac conversion thread.
https://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=126/mode=prod/prd126.htm

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It flipping runs! I'm gona throw the video on YouTube here in a couple.

https://youtu.be/Aal9FrhKqLs Forewarning you guys, I got a weird side hobby- vintage window air conditioners lol

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Addd I'm popping the fuel pump fuse soo that's all for today folks lol.

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Congratulations Dude!!!!!!! The main thing is that it runs. Now you just have to tidy up the loose ends (like the fuel pump fuse thingy). Awesome work... you've earned some cold beers! :thumbsup:

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410customs wrote:
wicked cool progress! Got the cab back on already nice!!

Now this AM I went back through the thread to see what wires I need to lookup
and I see this:

the 4406 I got has no output shaft speed sensor like the 4404 that's on the trans still.

What year is the 5.0 PCM? I'm guessing its a 97-97.5 since your old awd t case had a speed sensor
The 5.0 IS expecting to see a VSS signal from that transfer case so it can shift the auto trans properly

So there are two possible paths from here:
Add VSS to the 4406. (I have done this, it is possible using parts from earlier 4406)
or
BUY the Dakota Digital universal speedometer correction device and we should be able to get the VSS signal we need for the pcm from this.
It will also be needed to make your 2002 truck happy. I am going through this RIGHT NOW on the 2002 sport trac v8 thread.
Your truck is the same

You see in 2002 the v6 speedometer, cruise and ABS all get the speed sensor signal (VSS) from the OSS axle AFTER it is "buffered" by the V6 pcm.
Well you just removed the V6 pcm, so the correct VSS signal for your speedometer, abs, cruise is not there.
The dakota digital box ($100+/- on summit) will perform the buffering function for us.
The v8 PCM does not do these "buffering" calculations. In the explorer the ABS module does the speedo "buffering"

Same as the 02 sport trac conversion thread.
https://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=126/mode=prod/prd126.htm
The ecm is a 1996, I fine with the Dakota digital. Where would I pick a signal up from?

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mhoward wrote:
Congratulations Dude!!!!!!! The main thing is that it runs. Now you just have to tidy up the loose ends (like the fuel pump fuse thingy). Awesome work... you've earned some cold beers! :thumbsup:

I'm not a drinker in general, but maybe tonight I'll open a few up. Possibly tomorrow I'll head to the junk yard for drive shafts.

im definitely gona owe 410 3-4 cases of beer after this build lol

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Congrats dude!

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Congrats dude!
Thanks man! I was riding the high till I found the fuel pump fuse blown lol

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a conversion will always have bugs to sort out.
It took me 2 years to sort out the wiring for my first v6 swap 20+ years ago. Once you go through this you will have a FULL understanding of your Ranger
You and the truck will be connected like twins
Well done getting it running so quickly! It was running smoothly too!
So many conversions get to this point only to find out they have to pull and engine again, or something major. You are on your way to having a 5.0 Ranger in days or weeks not months or years!

I am working on where to pull the VSS signal from right now.... The rear axle speed sensor wires where they go into the old v6 pcm is where I am shooting for....stay tuned.

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