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Notice: now that some states are "opening" back up and relaxing restrictions, the news media along with the "experts" are saying that we will have a second wave in the fall and that it will be "MUCH MUCH WORSE".  More hype because that is what the media feeds on and it keeps the experts in the spotlight and in control of our lives.  Not saying that there won't be a second wave, not saying it won't be worse than the first time, but THEY DON'T KNOW YET.  No one knows.  It's all speculation based on something they know very little about yet... based on computer models THAT ARE INACCURATE because they don't have good data and facts yet to input to the modelling programs.  THIS SH*T JUST NEEDS TO STOP!

Now, bring on the flames! :-)

Look up spanish flu. Second wave killed way more... I'm in no hurry to go to the movies or hit the casino. If sacrifices need to be made I'd rather it be stuff like that than mine or your parents and grand parents who have done so much for this country and the world....

I heard a story on the news about a lady who had covid, went to the hospital and died  clutching her cell phone hoping some would call. This broke my heart. 

I could care less about all these conspiracies until the pandemic is eradicated.  Just like the second wave... we dont know, it's all speculation



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Yes, it did.  BUT, C-19 isn't the Spanish Flu, so its behavior could be radically different.  Can't compare the two as they are completely different.



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I heard a story on the news
And herein lies the problem. Guys turn off the TV. Find a few feeds that have been dead on right more than 2 times and still take them lightly. Anyone listen to NPR? Sad story after sad story, yes there are sad stories out there but if you get fed only the sad stories you begin to think that it must be most people that this is happening to when it might be one out of 50,000.

Dudes I stopped watching the news years ago. I think it was over 18 but that's off top of my head. This doesn't make you ill informed this makes you smarter.

Go back and listen to the original broadcast of Orson Well's war of the worlds.

Then read the stories about mass mayhem and people killing themselves.

Then read stories about what really happened.



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Nobody knows anything for certain, but common sense says to me that more people will get infected without lockdown and social distancing.

If more people get infected, more people will die of the diseases caused or exacerbated by the virus.

Political balancing act - save lives or save the economy.

While the USA seems to be screaming to open up, the UK & European countries are worried about building confidence so that people will actually return to work.

One thing seems pretty certain though, the tourism industry and airlines are in for a bad time.



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Yes, it did.  BUT, C-19 isn't the Spanish Flu, so its behavior could be radically different.  Can't compare the two as they are completely different.
Or it may act the same - you can bet on one thing though - if it does act the same and we do nothing about it, the witch hunters will be out and if it acts different and we treat it the same, the witch hunters will also be out.



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So basically, the witch hunters will be out...



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So basically, the witch hunters will be out...
Yup - lead by the news channels, driven by the politicians and followed by the sheep.



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https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/project-veritas/%3famp

I'm not left or right but if we are gonna slam NPR for leaning left, let's take a look at the credibility of the one touted here from the far right ...you can find a youtube channel to support anyone's beliefs.... flat earth anyone...

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Honestly, a person would be well-advised to just ignore any form of reporting.  It all comes down to what gets the most views...



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Are the rental trucks stuffed with rotting corpses in New York not real enough...
Evidently not.  It was WIDELY reported, even by Fox news.  



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Oh - I get it OK - business is more important than people's lives?

Maybe people will realise that there are other ways to conduct business, that there is no NEED to travel to offices when the same work can be done remotely - 30 odd years ago we were 'promised' that computing would bring a revolution in working practices, maybe this will kick start that process which has been stalled through resistance to change and greed for profit?

It is certainly highlighting the stupidity of government that turns down manufacture in the UK and buy from abroad so that our manufacturers then export the same product cos they can't sell it here!

The world recovered after other pandemics and wars and it will recover again.

To come at it a different way, I suppose it is a good thing to kill off the elderly, it reduces the pension burden on business and government?


Yes, business is more important.  Every jackass going 'but but I need a haircut!'  Donning masks, grabbing guns and storming the statehouse?  What kind of moron does that?  Not one of color, they get shot just for getting a speeding ticket.  Stupid assholes.  

And yes, there was actually a shitbag politician that said old people should die in order to stop the covid-19 from damaging the economy.  When an asshole like that gets ANY support, that dipshit that supports him moves to my ignore list.   If you are that stupid, that morally bankrupt, do the right thing and volunteer for his Texas death group.  What a bunch of total losers.

But yes, we probably will get traitor trumpy for pres again.  Flat out the worst asshole, even fucks over his supporters, and they ask for more.

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And the day he is sworn in, there will be riots and looting and property damage. Just like last time. Somebody has to show how bad he is.



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Eddie Money wrote:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/project-veritas/%3famp

I'm not left or right but if we are gonna slam NPR for leaning left, let's take a look at the credibility of the one touted here from the far right ...you can find a youtube channel to support anyone's beliefs.... flat earth anyone...

And all stories on ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN advance the left agenda while completely ignoring anything at all the right has to say good or bad. But James is wrong because he supports the right agenda?

I listen to NPR probably more than I listen to Salem. You can't defeat the enemy unless you know how they think.



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Left, or right I dont care. Just be factual and accurate please. 

"Often his information is debunked, but it is too late as the information has already been watched by thousands or more."


I interpret this to mean misinformation or "fake news" but thats just my opinion.

I didnt start this thread but, and it could just be me...but, I dont think a ranger forum is the correct place to advance a political agenda. This should be a fun place where we share our common interest. But if we are to discuss covid19 I would think we should strive to educate each other with real information not conspiracies. There are plenty of other places to go for misinformation.

Were are all friends of ford !!! I hope everyone is safe and comes out whole at the end of this.

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Yes but WHO said it was debunked and why can they be trusted? And who cares about beto anyway he's like ford-rangers compared to therangerstation.



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Yes but WHO said it was debunked and why can they be trusted? And who cares about beto anyway he's like ford-rangers compared to therangerstation.
My source is in the link provided in my earlier post.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/project-veritas/%3famp

I encourage everyone to vet all information before assuming it as fact. 

Conspiracies are created when people feel powerless over circumstances or situations and need the need to connect the dots to make sense of things they dont quite understand.

If you are a 2nd amendment supporter you better care about beto....

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JAMMAN, because you have shared you are a trump supporter, I assume you are a Republican. So I have a question. 

Why are Republicans so willing to sacrifice those who have already sacrificed for this country just to get a haircut and a beer if all life is precious?

I'm trying to educate myself on both parties positions. 

So far I'm leaning on science and data rather than putting it in God's hands.

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Ok in 3 sessions I read the small novel. His "tactics" are no different than any other reporting agencies I see these days, he is just on the wrong side of "them".

Do you agree with Soros at all and what he does? Because of the money he has does anyone really know what Soros does?

James asks real people real questions and what they say is what they say, especially in the last 2 years since his cause has become so important and isn't the only one trying to uncover the mechanism behind the left agenda. There are more including our president.

It's an endless battle that cannot be won. The left is convinced they are right and the right are a bunch of bible thumping idiots, the right think the left are going to destroy the world as we know it and are genetically programmed somehow to not open their eyes.

At least we all know this now thanks to the 2016 election, maybe we can get around it maybe USA needs to be split in two halves and become 2 countries. Too bad we can't cut and paste New York and colorado beside California so this could happen.

I bet you thought that article was going to show me I was wrong about J.O. and I would fold my hand and admit I am wrong about everything I think. To me it just proved further and upheld what I think.

That's the thing, I'm not going to be able to sway a lefty to lean right and lefties cannot sway a righty to the left. This is 2020 folks we are divided.



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If you saw my hair you might think differently.

OK that was humor.

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They are all as bad as each other, the only solution is to shoot ALL the politicians and anyone who wants to become one.

I am now totally p*****d off with ill informed people asking other ill informed people what they think about things that nobody knows the answer to.



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I'm not here to advance my agenda. I dont have one. I'm simply trying to understand both sides respectfully. 

And no, my intent was not to change your opinion, it was to show the credibility of o'Keefe.

If both sides continue to combat fake news with fake news no one will trust anyone anymore. Then what?

Let's get back to the truth as it can be proven and do less speculation.

So far the Democrats appear to be using a logical approach. Republicans appear to be using misinformation and seem more interested in seeing how they can use social media outlets to confuse the situation even further, like death is a joke...

If republicans want to reach the minds of others they should take a different approach rather than sarcasm.

I'm open to being educated but I'll turn my back in anyone who thinks it's funny to misinform. People are searching for answers and lives are at stake.

I'm not here for political advice... but I thought I'd take the opportunity to engage the diversity of our members respectfully to further my understanding of this great divide.

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Eddy I see it the other way around. I see the Democrats chipping away at the constitution not giving an inch to push the LGBTALPHABETSOUP agenda, eliminated the 2nd amendment then go after the 1st, push more people into relying on government handouts, and basically crap on the Judeo-Christian  values that helped create this country. The push by the left for a more socialist government is not acceptable. 

I do not belong to any political party as I see problems with the two major ones that we have. I see Democrats that openly break the law and they get a pass. I see more scrutiny on Republicans. The #MeToo group tried to crucify Kavanaugh and has given Biden a pass even though there is more historical evidence supporting Biden's accuser (and the other 7). I also have problems with giving illegal aliens more financial assistance than homeless Americans or giving illegals free tuition while cutting tuition assistance for veterans and their families. There are members of both parties that need to be tarred and feathered for the malfeasance they have done while in office but I see more infractions on the Democrat side that are ignored or given a free pass.



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Eddy I see it the other way around. I see the Democrats chipping away at the constitution not giving an inch to push the LGBTALPHABETSOUP agenda, eliminated the 2nd amendment then go after the 1st, push more people into relying on government handouts, and basically crap on the Judeo-Christian  values that helped create this country. The push by the left for a more socialist government is not acceptable. 

I do not belong to any political party as I see problems with the two major ones that we have. I see Democrats that openly break the law and they get a pass. I see more scrutiny on Republicans. The #MeToo group tried to crucify Kavanaugh and has given Biden a pass even though there is more historical evidence supporting Biden's accuser (and the other 7). I also have problems with giving illegal aliens more financial assistance than homeless Americans or giving illegals free tuition while cutting tuition assistance for veterans and their families. There are members of both parties that need to be tarred and feathered for the malfeasance they have done while in office but I see more infractions on the Democrat side that are ignored or given a free pass.

Thank you, I appreciate the polite sincere sharing of opinions. Thank you.



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yeah buddy..... good reading here.
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