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 Posted: Tue Nov 1st, 2022 01:53 pm
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VelociRanger
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 Did the 1997 rangers have PATS? There's a truck on Craigslist for $400, he can't find the key and the steering wheel is locked. 4.0 5 speed extended cab 2wd, green (first thought of you, JAMMAN). He has the title. Vehicle may or may not run, possible blown head gasket. I need to know if I buy an ignition cylinder and just plop it in will it work or does it need to be programmed? Truck is 2 hours from me so I can't just run out there quick and take a look and the owner is an elderly man who thought it was a f150. Thanks in advance for any help.

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1984 Ranger, currently in ≈861 pieces. She’s donating what’s salvageable.
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 97 is safe, last year of non pats for the 4.0



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1997 Ranger Ex Cab Manual 4.0 2wd, dead on arrival. Hopefully reviving for a daily driver.

1984 Ranger, currently in ≈861 pieces. She’s donating what’s salvageable.
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 Did ya snag it?



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 Yes I did, it's rough but it's going to be the beater truck/to and from work truck. Definitely needs head gaskets, there's water pouring out of the exhaust and the oil is milky. Luckily my boss (got a new job, working in a mechanic shop now) is going to let me park it and work on it here as I go. Also, got the ignition cylinder swapped, got the new ignition for it.

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1983 Ranger, reluctantly taking apart. Donor/project vehicle.

1997 Ranger Ex Cab Manual 4.0 2wd, dead on arrival. Hopefully reviving for a daily driver.

1984 Ranger, currently in ≈861 pieces. She’s donating what’s salvageable.
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 I'll get some pictures tomorrow, I HAD to clean up the inside today. Pretty gross, better but not even close. Not gonna worry about the outside, just mechanical and inside.



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1983 Ranger, reluctantly taking apart. Donor/project vehicle.

1997 Ranger Ex Cab Manual 4.0 2wd, dead on arrival. Hopefully reviving for a daily driver.

1984 Ranger, currently in ≈861 pieces. She’s donating what’s salvageable.
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 Bad news. Pulled the heads, had them in the parts washer and on the passenger side it's cracked in the water jacket in 2 places. On the search for head(s) now, so if anyone has some I can buy in the near future feel free to PM me. It's a 1997 Ranger 4.0 OHV.



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1983 Ranger, reluctantly taking apart. Donor/project vehicle.

1997 Ranger Ex Cab Manual 4.0 2wd, dead on arrival. Hopefully reviving for a daily driver.

1984 Ranger, currently in ≈861 pieces. She’s donating what’s salvageable.
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 I have a set of a 2000, about 40,000 miles on them. I know it will work on a 98 and 99 not sure about 97. Shipping to texas might be a hoot.



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 I'll do some research and see what happens. I know there were changes in the engine but not sure what that was. If you want, PM me a ball park price. This isn't a “I'll order them today” thing, more like in a week or so. Spent the budget on the truck already, didn't plan for heads to be bad so I expected to be driving my the end of the week.



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1983 Ranger, reluctantly taking apart. Donor/project vehicle.

1997 Ranger Ex Cab Manual 4.0 2wd, dead on arrival. Hopefully reviving for a daily driver.

1984 Ranger, currently in ≈861 pieces. She’s donating what’s salvageable.
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 There should be a casting number between the cylinders. If you wouldn't mind getting that and let me know what it is, please sir



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1983 Ranger, reluctantly taking apart. Donor/project vehicle.

1997 Ranger Ex Cab Manual 4.0 2wd, dead on arrival. Hopefully reviving for a daily driver.

1984 Ranger, currently in ≈861 pieces. She’s donating what’s salvageable.
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 On the heads? The heads are off. They are not the original heads either, the dude I bought it from replaced them before he sold it. It was that extended cab green one I owned. A head gasket started leaking water into a cylinder, when I took it apart it was just the gasket. I had only put 40K or so on the truck, all the bolts came right out all exhaust bolts everything. Nothing broke. I went over the head in the area the gasket popped in with a 50X loupe and saw nothing unusual. Heads look barely used.

What I did see were massive gaps in the rings and at least .01 between the cylinder walls and pistons... that's when I found the 99 4.0 in west virginia and took a road trip. It's all documented on here somewhere. I kept the heads because I saw nothing wrong with them.

You might want to check out what new ones would cost, might be just a little more than the shipping on these LOL.



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 I found this on a ford truck forum complete with misspelling:

"The heads on the 97' 4.0L OHV Part #s are AC268C1, and AC268C, as for the 00' 4.0L ohv the part #s are AC268C1 and AC268C so aparently they have the same heads on them."



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 JAMMAN wrote:
You might want to check out what new ones would cost, might be just a little more than the shipping on these LOL.
New/reman heads are almost all 750+ for both, plus shipping. Finding used ones are nearly impossible/same condition I have. Maybe there's a way to fix mine, I'll continue to look for solutions



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1983 Ranger, reluctantly taking apart. Donor/project vehicle.

1997 Ranger Ex Cab Manual 4.0 2wd, dead on arrival. Hopefully reviving for a daily driver.

1984 Ranger, currently in ≈861 pieces. She’s donating what’s salvageable.
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 Remind me, I'm old. I'll pull them out and snap a picture of them for you. I'm not going to use them.



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1997 Ranger Ex Cab Manual 4.0 2wd, dead on arrival. Hopefully reviving for a daily driver.

1984 Ranger, currently in ≈861 pieces. She’s donating what’s salvageable.
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