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 Posted: Sun Jun 23rd, 2019 04:22 pm
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Does anyone know the length of the stock coils for the 2008 2wd? I know the spring rate is different for the 2.3, the 3.0 and the 4.0 but my truck rides incredibly rough, and the front sits pretty low. Much lower than other rangers I've noticed, so low that I've noticed the rubber bumps tops are starting to get destroyed, and so I'm going to get new shocks and new coils for the front and new shocks for the rear. The only thing on the coils is, I CANT FIND COILS ANYWHERE!! They're either lifted or lowered coils. I could go with lifted to get the front level with the rear, so that may be an option. Thanks.



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VelociRanger wrote:
Does anyone know the length of the stock coils for the 2008 2wd? I know the spring rate is different for the 2.3, the 3.0 and the 4.0 but my truck rides incredibly rough, and the front sits pretty low. Much lower than other rangers I've noticed, so low that I've noticed the rubber bumps tops are starting to get destroyed, and so I'm going to get new shocks and new coils for the front and new shocks for the rear. The only thing on the coils is, I CANT FIND COILS ANYWHERE!! They're either lifted or lowered coils. I could go with lifted to get the front level with the rear, so that may be an option. Thanks.
A couple thoughts we would like to put into motion here as far as the vehicle riding "incredibly rough". Pointing out a multitude of variables that can contribute to this effect and walking backwards through your post maybe we can figure out what the issue is.


Tires and relation to ride control felt:

  • Type of tire - (Radial, all-terrain, mud-terrain)
  • Tire compounds
  • Tread depth
  • Tire age (signs of dryness)
  • Tire pressure
  • Tire diameter (stock or oversized +1, +2, +3, more?)

Suspension (Shocks/Springs):

  • How many miles on them
  • Condition/Damaged or worn?
  • Noticeable bent or sagging springs
  • Stock original equipment or aftermarket
  • Type of shock if aftermarket or OEM replacement type
  • Ball joint conditions and other UCA/LCA bushings

Terrain or driving conditions

  • Is the problem related to off-road or backroad conditions
  • Tarmac
  • Speeds - Any, slower, faster speeds

And finally in comparison to what?

  • Another like Ranger?
  • A car?
  • Before some previous suspension work was done?
  • A dramatic change recently in drivability?



Most of the 2" taller coils you'll find like 1.5in Ford Leveling Coil Springs (Non 4.0L) which arent for your year/model truck but are a leveling coil setup vs a Daystar urethane spring riser which in most of the time the leveling coil seems to offer a smoother ride and the Riser plates whether aluminum or urethane seem to give an added rougher ride. To us $89 for Leveling risers or $120 for Springs we'd suggest the spring rate and better ride for the few dollars more invested.

You mention the bump stops are worn rather aggressively. Can you see where the point of contact is? Does it match in wear with rub marks or scratches?

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Tires: Goodyear wrangler radial a/t

Compound: unsure?

Tread depth: it's a brand new tire, less than 1,000 miles so it's fairly original depth. (Just checked, it's 13 new)

Tire pressure: I did have it 32lbs cold, but when I looked at the specifications of the tire for the tread depth I noticed it was a max psi of 36. So, after reading that I went outside and checked the psi and they were all right at 36. This is after driving home from work that's maybe 15 minutes away at an average speed of 50, and then letting them sit for an hour. So, I went out and took out some air and it's currently at 30psi all around. I'll check them in the morning before I leave to see if it changes and update this to see if the ride gets any better.

Tire diameter: 28.9”, 1.5” taller than stock

Springs: less than 10,000 miles on the front shocks, springs unsure I've never replaced them. Rear shocks I'm assuming are ford oem 

Rear leaves seem fine, not much sag but I can check later or tomorrow. Front coils may be sagging, I'm not sure. Again, I've noticed the front seems much lower than other rangers I assume are stock.

Shocks are supposedly oem equivalent, can't remember the name.

Ball joints will probably need replacing soon, no torn boots are anything but again assuming it's original ford then they have 137,xxx miles on them.

Not very much off-road driving, “backroads” I consider dirt roads and there's few out here. It's mainly old asphalt that was poured 10+ years ago and never really maintained.

On the highways it's still really rough, any bumps/divots in the road I feel in my spine for a couple days.

At really low speeds it's like the truck seems bouncy (around 5mph) but anything faster than that it's back to spinal compressions.

And the comparison is to other trucks and suvs mostly. We have a 2000 single cab short bed Chevy 1500 that rides like it's on a cloud. You hardly ever notice any bumps or anything.

It's always been this rough, even with the previous highway tires I had on it that were the same size, 235/75r15.

The springs I'm looking at are the MaxTrac 2” lift coils for my 2008 2wd 4banger.   

https://maxtracstore.com/1998-2010-ford-ranger-4cyl-2wd-2-front-lift-coils-maxtrac-753020-4/



Here's a picture of my front bumpstops at ride height:

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Last edited on Thu Jun 27th, 2019 08:06 pm by VelociRanger



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RockAuto usually lists the coil spring lengths and other specs.

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Where should I look for that? I looked everywhere and couldn't find anything.



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I don't know but are you sure about the rates being different on the 2.5/3.0/4.0? I put a 5.0 in a 2.5 and it sits higher than with the 2.5.

The bump stops seem way too close I should go out and take a pic of mine.



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JAMMAN wrote:
I don't know but are you sure about the rates being different on the 2.5/3.0/4.0? I put a 5.0 in a 2.5 and it sits higher than with the 2.5.

The bump stops seem way too close I should go out and take a pic of mine.

I myself am not 100% certain if the spring rates are different, but on nearly every single website I've looked for lift springs they have different part numbers for the 2.3, 3.0 and 4.0. It makes sense to me as the engines would weigh differently. It wouldn't be to jack up the price on the coils because they're all very similar in price. Here is the link to the ones I've been looking at. 

https://maxtracstore.com/1998-2010-ford-ranger-4cyl-2wd-2-front-lift-coils-maxtrac-753020-4/



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