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"Added by eddie, posted by 410custom"

check this out


GitHub - thomastech/CAN2Cluster: CAN-Bus Emulator for Controlling Automotive Dashboard Instrument Clusters
CAN-Bus Emulator for Controlling Automotive Dashboard Instrument Clusters - GitHub - thomastech/CAN2Cluster: CAN-Bus Emulator for Controlling Automotive Dashboard Instrument Clusters
 


hacking in and controlling a 07-09 mustang can bus instrument cluster
Hmmmmmmm


I am looking for any can bus interface modules or anything that will allow us to control/input to the stock cluster

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"Added by eddie, posted by 410custom "

Started taking an 07 instrument cluster apart, there is little hope of modifying the fixture
However it is possible to hack the cluster, it is happening more and more in the world of can bus clusters
I did some researching and reading yesterday, this is something I am looking into

In other news the truck is running! But I am still out of time with the cam synchro
I made a chart to show where the cam synchro should be stabbed
My new friend over at classicbroncos has taken the time to school me 100% in this issue and now I fully get it!
The synchro must be stabbed at 185 degrees before top dead center occurs
Like this




I am going back and fixing the original post on the crank balancer to show this. (Basically I needed to go around one more time)
I will be Re stabbing the synchro today

Also the Hall effect crank sensor came in from lowdollar motors. So I fabricated a simple mount using stock parts (dirty parts!)


Parts needed cleaned they came off a low mile engine I have in. The shop, but a nasty messy engine at that! I also used same engine for mock up


Had no idea the factory guard said “time” on the pointer learn something everyday



Now to make a simple jig, this ensures the new sensor lands in exact location as stock sensor




Sensors location in 
relation to the mounting screws is what I was interested in


Cut simple piece of metal and welded in proper
Location





 




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Perfect!!
Now to install I will have to tap into the power feed for the cam synchro and run to this sensor as well
Old sensor two wires ground from pcm and signal to pcm
New wires pcm ground, pcm signal and clean power
Holley software make simple change for new hall effect crank sensor and we are rolling

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I then took a 07 cluster apart to see about potential hacking ( and I mean hacking with soldering iron and hot knife)
Looks difficult w these clusters
So looking into hacking the software side of things






The needles won’t even come off with a fork like the old ones did shoot





This will be an on going project as I finish the rest of the truck




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Crank sensor is easy to adjust! I am able to fit a wrench on the front and backside


I adjusted it on a spare engine though so I won’t have to in the truck



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I am not interested in a piggyback! (If we can help it)
Already too late I have been busy
As cool as hacking can bus clusters is wicked potential for resto mods and drivetrain conversions I already have a factory based solution  I will have to run some wires…
We are keeping a factory cluster and adding to it!
I will likely need a Dakota box for the speedo signal
I need to locate a tach signal from the Holley



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"Added by eddie, posted by 410custom"

So as you guys know I have several dashboards in the shop for this project
While messing with the 07 cluster and the wiring to it I had a question pop into my head, do any of these other late model clusters have additional wires for the indicator lights? Sure enough the 05 dash I have has a cluster that looks similar, but guess what about 30 wires instead of 15!

05 cluster



07 cluster wiring



So out come the wiring books to confirm. Sure enough the 05 cluster still has Can Bus connections BUT it also has all the wires for the gauges and indicator lights! So my plan is to use the guts from an 05 cluster and the face of the 07 cluster that came with the truck
I will likely need a Dakota digital interface to get the signal needed for the speedometer, otherwise this should be fairly straight forward. I will have to run some wires as the 07 truck does not have them.
Wires for the tach, coolant gauge, and all lights will be run and testing has begun! I feel good about this solution






As you can see most of the 05 and 07 wiring is very similar for the cluster aside from the indicator lights



In other news I need to install the newly created hall effect type crank sensor
Removing and installing a crank sensor in a 5.0 truck with the radiator, fan, shroud, and belt in the way can be next to impossible. Not feeling well last week and not really in the mood to remove the fan and shroud and the belt I spent some time looking for another solution
FOUND IT!





This little 90 degree impact adapter from Dewalt came as a bonus with some other tools. I put it on the pegboard knowing someday I might need it. It worked like a charm!




I was able to fully remove the Holley ignition adapter harness (cam and crank sensors) from the truck quite easily!
I then reversed the crank sensor wires back to their original positions since with the hall effect sensor I no longer need them reversed
Then I cut the stock 5.0 crank sensor off and wired up the new hall effect. The power wire was already in the harness since it was designed to use a hall effect sensor.






installation was simplified using the dewalt tool I am able to get to the top crank sensor bolt.
Everything lined up, wires were carefully run and re installed into the truck






Lowdollar motors hall effect crank sensor installed






Same clearances/alignment as stocks setup

UP next now that we have a running truck and a plan for the cluster it is time for some seats!




2014 edge 10 way drivers seat with memory and heat vs stock ranger bucket. This got a little tricky
I am in the process of fabricating the mounts now
This required much trial and error ensuring I get the seats in the correct spot for a comfortable fit.
The Edge seats have much electronics inside them, the metal mounting rails are spaced further apart then a ranger seat.
I have the 14 edge wiring book so I was able to "hack" the power and the heat elements
I did a similar upgrade to my 97 F350 using heated and cooled power leather buckets from a Lincoln navigator so this is not my first rodeo. My BII has also had 01 Explorer leather with heat for 15+ years now.

This seat install has gotten very tricky, but so far I am winning.
More on that soon

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"Added by eddie, posted by 410custom"

my wife says my "brain works differently" lol

she has been around hot rods and hot rod builders her whole life, although they can build an entire custom car, it takes a certain type of person to be able to complete the wiring.
My response is "those dudes are weak sauce, I mean how many wires are under the hood of a old hot rod? like 7?" LMAO

I credit my brilliant father for my wiring skills, he had me working with electrics and a soldering iron at like 11 years old

It helps me a great deal that there are no inner fender liners in this truck yet AND it is on a lifted suspension.

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"Added by eddie, posted by 410custom"

Seat install pretty dang tricky that is for sure, after many hours of measuring and trial and error I have the drivers seat in position
I use a spare battery and alligator clips to power it until I can make the connections. I will run one of my fused power leads from the stock PJB/SJB to the two seats for the heater elements which will need switches, since the edge has the controller in the dash

This is not a modification for the impatient!!
The edge seats although a good size for the ranger, they sit up about 1-1.5"higher off the floor then a stock seat even AFTER I hacked all the mounts and lowered the seat as much as possible. If you are 6'-2" then your bald spot will be on the headliner
Lucky for me I am 5'-10" and so is the truck owner, so we are good.
I have similar situation in my F350, took some getting used to but in a truck sitting up high is ok
My stepsons 98 Ranger is here, 5.0, 6" lift, 2005 FX4 seats so I have something to compare it to. At the end of the day I am sitting up about 1" higher then stock, with the full power seat all the way back and all the way down
Plenty of movement in the seat forward back, tilt and recline, plus the heat will be nice. There is just no physical way to get it any lower to the ranger floor pan.


Factory ranger slider mounts bolted in place after being removed from factory seat slider



Carefully measure and decided I can remove 1.5” of material max!


Heavily modified front inside mount during mock up, you can see the edge seat has been stripped
Clean down to the power rails they ride on and slammed all the way to the floor allowing just enough room for movement


First look at the bucket in its final location


What I have removed from one seat so far




Mock up just tack welded here which is good I had to move the rear mount back 1/4” to line up w stock mounting bolts






Final fab and re enforcement as well as the two outer mounts will happen today…
Then run power and sort out seat belt receiver then we will have a driver seat!

Still pass side to go




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