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 Posted: Mon Feb 12th, 2018 08:11 am
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Sadly Ohio lost two officers in a senseless shooting.

My wife works for the Ohio Police & Firemans pension funds

and shes not looking forward in going in today.



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Thats terrible to hear. I don't have TV at home so i miss a lot of this. Any link to the story or info?



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It made national news, its on the enternet. They got a 911 hangeup call. When the officers got there. he ambushed them. The girl friend called 911 back for help saying he shot the police. He's not to suppose to have a gun, hes a convicted fellon. But the girlfriend says he carries a gun 27/7

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It's sad to be reminded that someone of any statute thinks they have the right to take the life of another or have power over them in general.

That being said, and NOT to steal the light away from the mourning of these two men but i think this needs to be said.

I just read a couple articles already on the incident and I am of course being completely speculative and with a lot of Leo's and Military personnel both active and former as friends, I must say somethings sort of fishy..!

In the last couple months, its been a slow and advancing roll of similar incidents of cops being ambushed now, I think 4 if not now 5 situations. I don't know who is to blame or accuse for it but the way the articles are written makes me feel as though America just wasnt angry enough to drive the wedge deep enough between what people term as underclass citizens and their counterparts. Meaning the racial tensions although high just didn't get there when talking about enough division among Americans.

For a couple years it was all about policy enforcement officers shooting black men, and then riots being formed, people taking to the streets in droves expressing the unfairness of quality of life as if all of a sudden, things were worse than the 60's era of  fighting for [civil] rights.

NOTE: Keep in mind; " Civil rights include civil liberties. Civil liberties emphasize protection from infringement upon basic freedoms, while statutory rights are based on laws passed by Congress or state legislatures." MEANING that someone [Congress -AKA Government] gave them to you which MEANS its not a right or an actual liberty because it CAN be taken away just as it was given.

A RIGHT is something inherent, which we are told and know means that no one can give it to you or take it away unless you basically relinquish that right. What the Congress did was give people "PRIVILEGES" because at the stroke of a pen or change of direction in government, they COULD take such things away from said people.


YES, we know that would likely break out into all out civil war for sure again but if you think about it, the very few who know their actual "rights" and how to use or invoke them but if you really dive into things those rights violations are used everyday not against just certain groups of people but all people in court rooms, terms of service contracts, contracts in general, etc..

Why do you think that a certain political group wants all of this new NO BORDERS crap? Because they are so desperate to create a new underclass of citizens because the Latino in the words of even other black/brown folk is the new "Negro vote" as stated here.






Back to the point I am trying to make ~ So NOW, we see and hear all of these new attacks. Attacks on Police Officers because now if we flip the tables around, we know, WE KNOW that the PEOPLE will be not only upset and shout. But they Certainly will be easily more divided if all of a sudden we switch the mode from young black or brown men from being persecuted and shot in the streets to Police officers being targeted and persecuted in the streets.

Like I said, its early and I AM BEING speculative and hopefully I am completely wrong. But I see a new trend in the media trying to regroup and gain some new ground. Watch closely, watch as this becomes a NEW epidemic of things to come and watch most of all where the mood of the people goes and where it leads in the upcoming months.

More division among American (wo)men is on the way as Neither side ever wastes a crisis..  Mark my words, it ain't over yet.


Sorry if my comment upsets anyone...

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More division among American (wo)men is on the way as Neither side ever wastes a crisis.. Mark my words, it ain't over yet.
and never will be - it is part of life and always has been.

Basic survival drive - whenever someone feels threatened, whether real or imaginary, they will fight - then others, including people like politicians and the media will jump on the bandwagon to make a buck out of it.

Stop shootings? Take away the guns .... then they will knife people,  but that is so much more personal and fewer people have the guts for it.

That's why we are seeing more vehicles used as weapons and just an illustration of how you will never stop it - they will always find a way.

On a different tack - but also I suspect driven by self interest -  is the whole Brexit farce - the uncertainty caused by the whole government approach has benefited the well off with shares in the stock market, has helped the government meet targets and has caused the cost of living to escalate - deepening the division between the few and the many.

Much play was made on the savings  to come from leaving the EU and how this would benefit our NHS - looking at government figures of how our taxes are spent - 0.7% goes to the EU  but 45% goes on the NHS & welfare and another 16% pays for government borrowing.  I wonder how impressed people would have been with the prospect of such a tiny change in home funding had they been told the facts before the referendum.

I have a cynical view that after the negotiations are finished they will say Oh dear it is a bad idea to leave the EU and then they will cash in on the investments, take a healthy profit and the markets will dive.



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