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Dang Mike, maybe you should move the 'Stang project to the living room.  You could then spread things out a little more!  Upside for me is that I now don't feel quite so bad about being stuck in a suburbian two-car garage!   :'(
Michael, I wish I had either a basement or a 2 car garage. Jamie, the only problem with moving the compressor outside is the winter time, any moisture in the compressor or the lines will freeze.



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I used to have my Harley in my bedroom... the smell of the oil and gas finally got to the wife and she said it need to go outside, I got a barn to work in... funny what moves the female mind.
To the guy that is posting about the 5.0L Swap, my first thought is the cost will depend directly to the pieces you buy to do the jobbed the cost associated with them.
A '97 would be my choice IF I were to start again, but my '03 will do.  The '97 has better lifts for it, the suspensions works better off-road.
My '88 5.0L Swap cost me about $250 for just the engine with harnesses, you CAN get by without all the extra electronics in the later model Explorers, I used a '93 Mustang Engine and got the engine harness too, to was a separate harness from the body of the Stang.  The stand was a 5-speed and allowed the use of the C4 auto trans, so that worked.   Your '97 doesn't have a separate engine harness BUT if you take your time you can separate the engine harness from the body harness, not the easiest thing to do but it separate any problems with the electrics of the engine.  So that is the first cost decision which engine, a used one or a new one.
I used an adapter kit from L&L Products, they have one of the best kits on the market, the machining of the parts is beyond most other kits, and their shorty headers are by far the heaviest tube wall, the best welding, and the mounting flange is 1/2" thick, keeps things straight and the seal tight.  
This kit is expensive and there are a lot of others that work just as well and cost less, so that is another cost decision.
The transmission, which one, I now know there are a lot of transmissions that you can make work, but by far the C4 is the easiest, and again, new or used, $$$ !  The problem with the C4 is this... nothing except it has no OD, which I didn't think would be a problem but I would use an OD Transmission when doing it again.
In fact, I am planning now, my trans selection will be an AOD, non-computer control, 1980's-1993, I am choosing new because I do not what someone else's problems, but that is me.  Another decision on money !
If you decide to use good quality, new parts the cost jump fast, but what you end up with is a finished product that works and usually work without a lot of problems.  If you buy used, excuse me Milkie, like the older Explorer suggested, you are inheriting all the problems that may have send the Ex to the JY to begin with.   A lot of people use these Explorers and the parts that come with them and end up with a great swap but you take the chance.

I think first you need to address the COST and how much you want spend, and how much extra work you want tracing down problems and then spending more money to fix what may or may not have been wrong with the EX from the JY !

Sorry I'm got a little negative on the JY Ex's but I like new parts, if possible, and the reliability new parts bring.
Good Luck with your choices but just remember there are ALWAYS hidden cost in these swaps.



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I just turned 62 in December & whenever it rains my body aches. I am retiring at 65 & my wife & I are planning to get a house that needs some work on a couple acres in southern Virginia so I have room for a nice sized garage & workshop. I want to live where it gets less snow then here in NJ, I might even work a little part time.
Always something, take your vitamins, take some sort of Fish Oil, for the joints, don't thing all of these ads for joint fixes are junk, check them out.
AND some B12 helps too and extra "C" keep the immune system up to performance too.
Sty south but watch the humidity, that can drain you too.   I planned on working part time, helped a friend with a new startup gas station, got a little money out of it, but when he decided to hire full time help I was told I had to move on.   NO biggy signed up for Social Security by then.  I thanked him and left, didn't buy gas there anymore !  LoL !


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Yeah, weather brings on some joint pain fun, for sure... especially when it is cold rain like we've had here recently.
I moved to SoCal, most of the time it isn't bad with the joints, but it does get cold or at least feels cold but thanks to the dry climate, I think, it isn't too bad.
Can always sit in front of the fire place, there is tomorrow, God willing and that dam creek doesn't rise !

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oh its winter that does that? LOL I always thought it was all the huge jumps I used to not land when I was skiing my whole adolescent life!!! ouch my back, my knees, my hips, my neck!
Whatever doesn't kill you...... I have been splitting wood each day with a 8# maul, this is my daily workout routine...no exercise machines needed!

For some of us older guys maybe but you young guys the usual excuse is Football, excessive exercising.
I do like the splitting wood, I didn't have to do it all winter when in the northeast, but would do a little here and a little there.It is good exercise.
 With the large splitter, you will have a good retirement job, selling cord wood.


I have been retired for 12 years now, worked part time for the first year, then gave up on the winter thing and being in the snow/cold/heavy clothing.
Now I live in SoCal and it's nice, not to many days that I feel the cold, unless we have rain too, gets that cold chill, but that doesn't happen much.

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My brother lives in Hollywood (hollyweird)
My mom and son just spent the week at Disneyland
I have much family in So Cal, grew up from 4-12 years old in Orange county, spent some time in my 20's living in Laguna
Many of our neighbors leave here in October and do not return until June, they mostly go to So Cal, AZ, TX and some Florida
Maybe someday when the wife and I get older we will be snowbirds and let the young ones enjoy the winters up here
Wife is looking at 4wd camper vans on the youtube right now this am...... dreams of RVing all over Alaska....head south in the winter......can't stop her why try!
She has wanted a firewood processor for years, a snowcat and some other wicked cool machines. 
I'm still trying to save $$$$ to 4x4 conversion our van., swinging a maul and I put tracks on the Polaris Ranger. Compromise!!
Dream big!!
If your compressor was in a tight wood box like a little shed then a simple light bulb would keep the lines from freezing :)



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Holy Sh*t, that is SO cool!  I could see me driving that. :-)



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there is one for sale on our local CL we were looking at yesterday $7500!!!
4 cyl diesel, 4x4 van! The ones my wife has been shopping for are more like $175000 LOL LOL I could maybe get the $7500 unit.....I don't think it qualifies with the boss she wants SPACE



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Holy Sh*t, that is SO cool!  I could see me driving that. :-)
They are a Australian import right hand drive. There are a bunch already in the states because they are 25years old. You can buy one from a company in canada that go through them and get certified. They are the same inside as a Volkswagen van. Sink, fridge etc..




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Um... that one looks a bit top-heavy!



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How cool would it be to camp where only a 4wheeler can go? Billy goats waking you up in the morning.... lol



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Hello all
I am not a new Ranger owner ( on my third one) but I am a new poster on this forum.
 I have been l looking for info on swaping a Torsen diff into my open 8.8. I just found a complete 31 spline 4.10 torsen axle at the local PnP and pulled it before doing any research on what I need to do to get it in my 3.73 4x4 
Thanks for any input
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So you pulled the complete axle, or just the innards?



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Jeff, welcome to F-R. I can not help you with your question, but I am sure someone here could answer it for you. BTW, nice looking Ranger, I love the blue. 67 hardtop as in Mustang?. Interested in old Mustang's too. Here is a pic of my 69.




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So you pulled the complete axle, or just the innards?
I got the whole thing, less the drums



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Hello all
I am not a new Ranger owner ( on my third one) but I am a new poster on this forum.
 I have been l looking for info on swaping a Torsen diff into my open 8.8. I just found a complete 31 spline 4:10 torsen axle at the local PnP and pulled it before doing any research on what I need to do to get it in my 3:73 4x4 
Thanks for any input
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It will bolt right in IF you snagged the U bolts and the blocks but.... until you change the front gear to a 4.10 you cannot use the 4WD. Jamie 410 would know what you can actually get away with, I'm sure he will chime in.

Being in Calgary you probably need the 4WD :-)



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Jeff, welcome to F-R. I can not help you with your question, but I am sure someone here could answer it for you. BTW, nice looking Ranger, I love the blue. 67 hardtop as in Mustang?. Interested in old Mustang's too. Here is a pic of my 69.



Pretty big fan of the blue myself. Yes, 67Hardtop is in reference to my Mustang. It's getting  a 5.0 , T5  trac loc 9". looks like you are making good progress on the '69. you on VMF ?

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Hello all
I am not a new Ranger owner ( on my third one) but I am a new poster on this forum.
 I have been l looking for info on swaping a Torsen diff into my open 8.8. I just found a complete 31 spline 4:10 torsen axle at the local PnP and pulled it before doing any research on what I need to do to get it in my 3:73 4x4 
Thanks for any input
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It will bolt right in IF you snagged the U bolts and the blocks but.... until you change the front gear to a 4.10 you cannot use the 4WD. Jamie 410 would know what you can actually get away with, I'm sure he will chime in.

Being in Calgary you probably need the 4WD :-)

I think I want to stay with the 3.73 as it is my DD all freeways and shxt .
Mostly just need the 4x4 for getting to the ski hills, not so much in the city

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If your current rear is a 8.8 you can put the ring and pinion from it into the torsen 31. I don't know your skill level if you have never seen the inside of one probably better to have someone else do it. If you are fairly comfortable with wrenches and dial indicators it really isn't that hard.

I haven't done one in years and I wouldn't hesitate to tear in to it. Plenty of help from YouTube also :-)



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Not afraid of a few wrenches or a bit of machining or fabricating. 
I guess my real question is,  can I install the torsen and 31s in my existing 8.8 or do I need the larger axle tubes  of the level II axle?



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You need the larger tubes. The bearings are larger in a 31 spline.



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Torsen does make a 28 spline version though that will drop right in. You would be amazed what you can do with a 28 spline. In most situations except extreme horsepower (well over 400 anyway) or rock crawling a 28 spline will do. Daily driver, snow and an occasional trail? you are not going to break your 28 spline. That is not a challenge LOL.



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Torsen does make a 28 spline version though that will drop right in. You would be amazed what you can do with a 28 spline. In most situations except extreme horsepower (well over 400 anyway) or rock crawling a 28 spline will do. Daily driver, snow and an occasional trail? you are not going to break your 28 spline. That is not a challenge LOL.
I don't know, that kind of seems like a challenge...
Thing is , I have the 31 spline set up so it seems like I am putting the 3:73 s in the big axle.



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Torsen does make a 28 spline version though that will drop right in. You would be amazed what you can do with a 28 spline. In most situations except extreme horsepower (well over 400 anyway) or rock crawling a 28 spline will do. Daily driver, snow and an occasional trail? you are not going to break your 28 spline. That is not a challenge LOL.
I don't know, that kind of seems like a challenge...
Thing is , I have the 31 spline set up so it seems like I am putting the 3:73 s in the big axle.

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Jeff, welcome to F-R. I can not help you with your question, but I am sure someone here could answer it for you. BTW, nice looking Ranger, I love the blue. 67 hardtop as in Mustang?. Interested in old Mustang's too. Here is a pic of my 69.



Pretty big fan of the blue myself. Yes, 67Hardtop is in reference to my Mustang. It's getting  a 5.0 , T5  trac loc 9". looks like you are making good progress on the '69. you on VMF ?

Yes, I am on VMF. My 69 has a lightly modified 1987 5.0, w/T-5, & 9" w/3.50 gears & trac loc.



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