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Tiffany & Co. launched an outrageously indulgent home and accessories line

Now the absurdity of the items was bad enough but what really got to me was this, and its quoted directly from the article itself. I'll highlight the part where I think the absurdities went straight to audacity..

"As outrageous as some of the items might seem, Tiffany & Co. means for them to be accessible luxuries. "While there are certainly extraordinary items at elevated price points, the vast majority of products in the collection are actually under $500," Derek Conrad, a company representative, told TODAY Home in an email.

By all means, if you can afford to indulge the collection without taking a foreclosure on the home you'd hoped to store them in, we're all for it."


To me and many others, this goes way against the grain of  business etiquette by simply saying out loud, "We know you have the money, and we want it and a bunch more if we can get it."

I think the audacity of this is atrocious if not for the implied thoughts beyond perhaps my own conservatism's but for the shear fact that "TIME" is a commodity that is irreplaceable.. No longer are the days of simplicity where even the 'middle-class' father goes to work in a job and supports a mortgage, wife, 2.5 kids, perhaps two vehicles, and still mages to spend a week out of his two week vacation taking the family on trips all while never missing or being late on a single payment of ANYTHING.

I would suppose that maybe, just maybe this above advertising may be selected for such an individual as it may be, maybe he could have $95 porcelain cups, or $350 crazy straws to put in them too... But most people of that era and time didn't blow their entire checks before the following payday or a day or two before to do it all over again. THEY saved and put away money to buy things they wanted. Something this new generation of youth confuses with instant gratifications and fueling the over consumerism that has people locked into blowing every dime earned.

Maybe I'm the confused one of change because my beliefs don't allow me to fit into the current societal template of new.. A lot of what I see, I don't want to fit for more reasons than I may be allowed bandwidth to explain.

What are your thoughts on things like this? I know there are quite a few men on here already who have me beat by at least 15-25 years. Surely you remember things as I do (?)...



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I like the quote (as if it were economically sane)
"the vast majority of products in the collection are actually under $500,"


The vast majority of rangers in my collection were actually under $500

I have nothing against people with amounts of money, an older gentleman that works for me actually has about 2-1/2 million in investments and doesn't really have to work any more. He got his money by starting small companies and selling them after they got going, learning about stocks and dividends and made some wise purchases. He deserves every penny. He also drives a 98 toyota rav 4 with peeling clear coat and wears jeans. He won't buy a new car even though he could get one with cash.


I can respect that though a 2-1/2 million portfolio isn't "rich" it is way more than I have LOL.

Remember when the mainstream media decided that "3 months salary" is the appropriate amount to spend on an engagement ring? Who could afford to get married?

I'm not 6 figures but 3 months salary is WAY more than I would invest in a wedding ring especially since my wife has lost 2 sets already. SHE won't even let me buy her another set at any price.

We know how the main stream media molds the people that follow it. It's like they want to send a mass e-mail in the morning and say "This is your point of view today"

What's sad is? Tiffany will sell their yarn ball that costs more than every ranger I have ever owned... combined...

Actors and athletes will flock to buy it just to say they have one. While I still pass at least 2 people on the way home every day holding signs that say "anything will help".

What is wrong with people?



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So much to agree to here.

I can see this being the next thread on fire soon.. thats for damn sure. people arent as dumb in this country as others assume, they're just too damn silent in their thoughts!

Generally i'm a professional, courtesy withstanding, sometimes lacking in tack even but Thank god I dont' run with a   filter...



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This sounds more like Mineminals and how a lot of them are no longer buying diamond rings because they are buying into the De Beers Diamond Conspiracy and they need a new way to sell product.



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This generation (Millennials) is really changing retail and how retailers do business. Most of them have no concept of "retail" and basically live online....

They are not destroying B&M, but are defiantly making B&M Retailers rethink how they do business...



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loomdog32 wrote: This sounds more like Mineminals and how a lot of them are no longer buying diamond rings because they are buying into the De Beers Diamond Conspiracy and they need a new way to sell product.

Well, when there was actually "litigation" concerning "the De Beers diamonds antitrust class action sought to end an alleged 60-year conspiracy to fix the price of rough diamonds in the U.S. by the De Beers group of companies. The litigation includes several cases including Hopkins v. De Beers Centenary A.G., et al., No. CGC-04-432954, which commenced on July 24, 2004, and Sullivan v. DB Investments, No. 04-cv-02819, and earlier related cases that commenced in 2001."

NOTE: et al., - "an abbreviation meaning “and others.” It is used to shorten lists of author names in text citations to make repeated referencing shorter and simpler."

I'd say its a real thing considering; There was an actual settlement AND $295M was given back to claimants...

De Beers diamonds Antitrust class action

"Working out the details took three years between Plaintiffs' Counsel and De Beers. On April 14, 2008, the Court conducted a fairness hearing and on May 27, 2008, granted final approval to the settlement. The settlement provides $295 million to purchasers of diamonds and diamond jewelry, including $130 million to consumers.

In addition, De Beers consented to a historic injunction that prohibits De Beers from monopolizing the world supply of rough diamonds and from fixing the price of polished diamonds. The injunction also requires De Beers to submit to the continuing jurisdiction of the United States District Court for enforcement of the injunction.

Commenting on the case, plaintiff's counsel Eric B. Fastiff of Lieff Cabraser Heimann & Bernstein stated that De Beers' offer to settle "showed that our strategy was correct. If you put litigation pressure and represent your client vigorously, eventually a guilty defendant will recognize that it needs to resolve its problems."


NOW what millenials are doing wrong is failing to assert themselves as "Owners" of anything. They would rather share or rent things or live at home. The failure here is that few people understand that without property, you limit yourself in actual rights and real wealth. "ALL RIGHTS are derived from PROPERTY" thats why slaves were what they were, and free (wo)men OWNED things.

If you know ANYTHING of history, TRUE history and you know your constitution, the laws as far as US Code and US Title. it doesnt take a raving genius to string together words and define them and read between the lines and Note;

"Instead of receiving State Citizenship which recognizes Natural Rights, African Americans only received the “United States Citizenship” of the Federal United States and “Civil Rights”, not “Natural Rights”.

When you look up “Civil Rights” you learn that they are “privileges” conferred by Congress and can be taken away by Congress just as fast.

You will also figure out sooner or later that the entire “Civil Rights Movement” demanding “Equal Civil Rights” had to have something to be “equal” to.

Equal to What?

Martin Luther King, Jr. wanted the civil rights owed to black Americans to be “equal to” the Natural Rights enjoyed by their white counterparts inhabiting the Continental United States. And enough people got mad enough about it to force the Congress to guarantee it, finally.

But consider this while you are attacking me for standing on the land jurisdiction of the Continental United States and invoking my State Citizenship and its guarantees—- without me demanding that my Natural Rights be honored, there is no standard determining the meaning of “Equal” Civil Rights.

If I lose my claim to Natural Rights, the Congress is set free to reduce all rights owed to all people in both the Continental and Federal United States to the level of slaves in 17th century Haiti.

The further unforeseen (and unannounced) consequence for Federal Citizens was that first the former black slaves and later white “United States Citizens” as well were conscripted and registered as “assets” of the United States of America, Inc., and their labor and other property was “made available” for the “hypothecation of debt”.

Look up the word “hypothecation“.


It's surreptitious theft using a mechanism akin to co-signing a loan, but in this case, you aren't necessarily made aware that you are the co-signer. Someone claiming to “represent” you as your agent, offers you and your resources to stand good for a Third Party. In this case, Federal United States Citizens and their property assets were offered as collateral backing the debts of the United States of America, Inc. by the members of Congress.

This is where the process of registering people as human chattel and issuing bonds for sale based on the estimated worth of their lifetime labor — CUSIP bonds– began. The “title” to the freed slaves was seized and flipped from private ownership to public ownership. They became chattel backing the debts of the “government corporation”.

To tidy up this outrage and excuse it as a “private contract” between the victims and the government corporation, the 14th Amendment Public Charitable Trust was established. In exchange for all the money raised by bonds issued against the value of their labor, the “freed” black slaves were enabled to access the “benefits” of the Public Charitable Trust.

This was a deal only bested by the theft of the land from the Native Americans."


"Supplementing the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights declares that all alleged US citizens have claim rights in addition to the property rights it attempts to reify (through double dipping by extending judiciary/legal benefits like the 4th, 5th and 8th Amendments). This reification of your rights to exclusion is an attempt by the State to express to you that such rights would not exist without their territorial monopoly. In consideration of the claim rights expressed in the 1st Amendment, for example, it is evident that the State does not aim to prevent the erosion of your property rights.
Rather, the State aims to compromise and blur them as means to attract prospective citizens, who the State would wish to treat as “tax cattle.”"

SOURCE: All rights are property rights

Seriously re read the 13th and 14th amendments.. and then read them again, and then again. ANd then when you start to see how carefully worded they were, and mind you the founding fathers only came up with the first 12 amendments, AND the 13th amendment ISNT even the original 13th amendment if you were not aware.

Original ratified 13th Amendment that disappeared in 1875

Class dismissed until tomorrow Gents...



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Basically nobody has any "rights" and even if you did then they can be taken away - the idea of going to Mars is getting more attractive....



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^^^^ For over 30 years now I can be quoted saying, "we need a new planet". As such I couldn't agree more!!!



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Civil Rights vs Natural Rights.


United States vs Constitutional United States Govt. (the one with the gold furry flag and eagle on top of it). And the Bankruptcy of the United States with the Corporate United Sates Govt using its citizens as collateral for loans to buy the old US out of defaulted debt just to cause more debt..


Sovereign Citizens vs Legal Citizens vs Alien Citizens


I love a good conspiracy theory, but this one huge ass mess that can drive just about anyone crazy... Whats real and what is not. And who really is watching you?!?



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In short, Sovereign-Citizen is an oxy-Moron word. You cannot be a free slave.. I have a longer answer but its in depth and I wanted to post this first anyhow in here.



Here is an actual court case with regards to loans. Loans of any kind... Credit Card, Mortgage, Automotive, Personal, otherwise. I think you'll be shocked at the outcome of this testimony.

When I would tell people that YOUR signature, is what gives the bank the money NOT the bank giving you the money and then referenced you back to HJR 192 (House Joint Resolution 192) things should start to click in your head..




Knowing this information long ago bothered immensely the honest man in me. I no longer wanted to be a part of the fraud that is just to protect a paycheck while selling cars. This is why I read law, this is why I read US Code, US Title, Statutes, and contract law. To know and define truth and reality, to keep myself honest and lawful.

When I say you will truly never own anything in this world, it wasn't stated as a clich©.. it was fact!

All rights are derived from property, if you don't own any property you aren't truly free!


Last edited on Tue Nov 7th, 2017 10:13 pm by Undrstm8ed



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loomdog32 wrote: Civil Rights vs Natural Rights.


United States vs Constitutional United States Govt. (the one with the gold furry flag and eagle on top of it). And the Bankruptcy of the United States with the Corporate United Sates Govt using its citizens as collateral for loans to buy the old US out of defaulted debt just to cause more debt..


Sovereign Citizens vs Legal Citizens vs Alien Citizens


I love a good conspiracy theory, but this one huge ass mess that can drive just about anyone crazy... Whats real and what is not. And who really is watching you?!?

The Gold fringed flag ONLY represents a Military flag and therefore Admiralty Maritime law, law of the sea not the land. Government officials and judges adamantly refuse requests to remove the gold fringed flag and replace it with the constitutional flag of the United States as defined in 4 U.S.C. Section 1, 2, and 3 – which has NO fringe.

With all of the controversy surrounding Google, FB, the NSA, among other agencies and the fact that if you think that these agencies and their agents would do ANYTHING to bury information that would otherwise ruin $Billions of dollars of revenue collection from small town USA to major cities, Counties, States, Nation wide. How unless YOU take the time to read law, US code, and US title would you find the information to use? You're going to trust the what; Courts? Policy Enforcement Officers? Google? What about before we even had Google or the internet at all?

But first lets clear some air and make it understood using some definitions and not buzzwords created by MSM and the Alphabet agencies we dont trust in the first place.

Sovereign - the full right and power of a governing body over itself, without any interference from outside sources or bodies. In political theory, sovereignty is a substantive term designating supreme authority over some polity. It is a basic principle underlying the dominant.

Citizen - A member of a body of politic that pledges allegiance in exchange for protection; A reciprocal duty.

Conspiracy Theory - a belief that an unpleasant event or situation is the result of a secret plan made by powerful people.

Emancipation - a change of ownership








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