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[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]New information coming in about how to properly time the cam synchronizer for the terminator X
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]Moving the wire I was speaking of yesterday was simply re routing the power for the cam synchronizer to pin B20 on the Holley. They want the power for the cam and crank hall effect sensors to come from this pin on the PCM, this is considered "clean power"
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]So I took the power feed away from the PJB and gave it directly to this pin
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]No change
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]So far we have tried:
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]putting cam synch 185 out
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]moving dedicated power wire for cam/crank
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]checked air/fuel spark
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]checked my power feeds
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]Checked for power at iac, injectors, etc power dist from holley
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]Checked PCM pinout to sensors making sure all is correct and connected
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]about 10 different setups on the software side, most of this is just me learning the proper setup for this engine/ignition/sensors with the holley
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]BUT GOOD NEWS!
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]It looks like I stabbed it at 10 degrees after top dead center on the exhaust stroke and that maybe too far
it should be closer to 10 degrees BTDC on exhaust
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]going to try again today
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]Holley is very specific about when the cam sensor must occur
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]Right now everything is green, crank the engine over, it attempts to fire but does not. The cam and crank sensor lights go blue green blue green just like they are supposed to, except the crank sensor led goes red after a few rotations. This is telling us there is an issue with the crank sensor.
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]The stock crank sensor is a VR magnetic type which as everyone knows requires shielding. These two wire sensors can be "noisy" and difficult to setup (software) with the Holley, so a "hall effect" type sensor is preferred (3 wire)
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]I have ordered one from Lowdollar motorsports for $79
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]This will help the Holley run our SBF smoothly and consistantly
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]However with the new info/ help I am getting on the classicbroncos forum I think we have found the issue, [font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]cam synchro is still out!!
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]So new hope...... It can be like going to war, each day you have a new plan and then somewtimes no gains......rollercoaster.
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]But this is what drives us!! This is the CHALLENGE!! So far all of my conversions are still on the road, I fully expect this sucker to work
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]This is my first Holley but I doubt it will be the last.
[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]Here is the thread on the early bronco forum, while researching our setup I found some dudes who already have these running around AND posting their info and findings........
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I started with a mustang 5.0 config then changed the ignition settings to custom with attached settings. At that point I believe if fired up and I noticed the sensor (oil, water temp & fuel pressure ) didn't seem accurate, don't overheat your engine! I spent copious time with multimeters and...
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[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif]I love going to school and learning each day, as we get older we need less and less sleep anyways!!
Last edited on Sun Oct 9th, 2022 11:01 pm by Eddie Money
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