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The SOHC engines are great, when they are working
I too would love to shove a 3.5 eco into a Ranger, I am sure somebody out there is already doing it. The snake 5.0, also being done. Turbo 4 banger, I would love to!!
The old electric 5.0, IE the 2.3Lt can make 750 HP+ back in 1984...this is old news. Try keeping a 400 hp 2.3L together for 10 years without popping head gaskets or transmissions every summer...its gonna cost you
For me its real simple here, in 96 Ford packaged the 302 so it would fit in our Ranger chassis.
This allows many of us Ranger enthusiasts the ability to get a powerhouse under our hood without having to shell out $10-15K just for the donor. In fact most 5.0L conversions come out well under $5000.... That is not going to be possible with an Eco boost, snake engine or any sort of boosted V6 for some time.
I have a 95 Eddie Bauer in my fleet with 390K miles on the original 4.0L pushrod just passed CO emissions last summer. 1995 Explorer eddie bauer is SLOW and GUTLESS....but its still getting 16mpg 390K miles later.......tick tick tick every morning lol
Highest mile 4.0L SOHC I have ever seen was 280K, anyone out there with a 4.0L SOHC made it further then this?
Sure the SOHC makes better power while getting better mpg...but not for long
You can M90-M112 your 4.0L OHV or your SOHC, Dont forget I can Supercharge my 331 or 347, I mean this is a rabbit hole we can go down sure.
The Cosworth cologne 2.9L engines were making well over 330hp back in the 80s...but at what cost?
The 2.9L was problematic and makes no torque.
Try keeping one of those together for 200K miles
I can get 300HP from a naturally aspirated 302 rather easily and with a $2500 budget, go bigger with a 331 or 347 and well.....they can make big power your v6 would cost $$$$$$ to keep up with anything over 300 hp
My 5.0L starts when its -30 out, it starts when its 130 out and it starts and runs exactly the same for 20 years now (98-2018).
Give me a BT4 and Ill stick it in a Ranger for you
Give me a 3.5L Ecoboost and Ill put it in an early bronco for you.
I am really interested in doing the newer powerstroke into some Rangers or sport tracs...but those builds require a huge budget!!!!!
a 302 explorer can be had for like $1000 less then the cost of a supercharger and the manifold for the entire donor.....
I had high hopes for the new Cummins 2.8L repower and still do, but its packed with emissions junk and not slated to make the power we need for our modern rigs and it costs $10K just to get one so back to the tried and true Bt4 turbo until the price of those 2.8 comes down and the aftermarket is able to get them up to the 300Hp mark
WHAT ABOUT THE TRANSMISSION??????
Supercharge your SOHC or your V6 OHV and stick it in front of what?
A C4? A 700R4? A 5R55E? M5OD? ticking time bombs!!! With a 300 hp supercharged 6 in front of them?
The weak C3 auto based v6 auto transmissions are the whole reason we go with the SBF
I got tired of trying to keep an A4LD together and keep the heat down so my $2500 V6 transmission wouldn't blow apart AGAIN. BBK Instacharger for the 4.0L OHV was a wicked beast in its day...but the transmissions? KABLOOEY
Even the best built 5r55e is no match for the AOD based 4r70w, give me the same budget and my truck will outlast yours 3 fold
I am not trying to build trucks that will do 10 second 1/4 miles....I respect the Rangers that do.
Here we build daily drivers, trail trucks, overland vehicles that you don't have to sweat the small stuff. Like trying to tow an ATV and a camper with your Ranger through the Rockies without the trans coming apart on the pass or in the middle of the desert. Stop and go traffic in 95 degree summer heat with the AC on, which would you rather have a 300 hp v8 with the 4r70w or a boosted v6 with a 5r55e??
These are not street racers that are taken apart and rebuilt every summer, these are workhorses often turning huge tires in desert heat while towing gear and families around.
The t case choice followed by transmission choice is what people should be looking at first when deciding what engine they are after, the trans is the most expensive part of any build over the vehicles life.
Last edited on Mon Jul 2nd, 2018 10:11 am by 410customs
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