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 Posted: Thu May 31st, 2018 01:23 am
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Undrstm8ed wrote:
V8 Level II wrote:

Hmmm...
 
Remove the factory intake which draws relatively cool air from behind the headlight in front of the core support. 

Then replace it with an intake that sucks most of its air directly from the engine compartment heated by the engine, radiator and exhaust. 

Pay $40 because they say it somehow draws cold air from outside the engine compartment but it clearly does not.  Check the auction picture.

 
If shiny parts and more intake noise are what you're after, it should deliver.

If you want a REAL aftermarket cold air kit, that would cost a lot more than $40.

This ^^^

To put it mildly; It doesn't matter how much air gets through: Here's the thing, you could stuff all of the wind blowing across the planet into your air box, and it wouldn't really make a difference. All that air still needs to pass a very important component: your throttle body. Remember the movie 300? They defended that small canyon pass for a reason, no matter how many baddies came towards them, they all had to squeeze through that small pass. Your throttle blade is essential Leonidas and his 299 pals. That's it's entire job, to change the amount of air flowing into your engine to meet an air-fuel ratio of 14.7:1. To really change the amount of air flowing into your engine, you first need to upgrade the size of your throttle body. The Persians need a bigger pass, bro...

Can you adjust some airflow to increase THROTTLE RESPONSE by going from a Paper > Dry/Oiled Cotton > Foam Filters?

Sure, and as the engine works like an air pump. Obviously if you breathing better, you would HAVE added a larger T/B to swallow all that Air to be able to "Tune" in more fuel and spark retardation or advance, you still need to create an exit point - the exhaust which I'm sure was next on our minds right I thought I saw?

But as soon as you start changing out that airbox and piping your changing the harmonics of the engine and its performance all for a noise that ideally just causes you to spend more money at the pump. Wanna save money for real mods that you can enjoy? How about paying less taxes? Everyone wants to pay less taxes right..

STOP

GOING

TO THE PUMP..

Less trips to the pump saves a bit more gas, saving on gas means paying less GAS tax.. Its not like your state or mine is actually spending that money on the roads. if that were the case, we wouldn't have bridges across the country 50+ years in degradation factors falling apart. The Wooooosh Noise isnt helping you or performance. I mean if you're the type of person(s) that think POWER is defined by spinning the tires on a vehicle VS having proper suspension work and getting all 112-500hp to the ground well.., You can kick any pig in the ass and make it squeal. But you'll be losing time on that clock doing so.

Put your money into your suspension, better tires, something that will benefit you as a function or use. Not mythical power adders or automotive party favors that make "noise".

Wow, I struck a nerve. 


Couple of things, my truck gets driven maybe once a week at most, and that's because I make note to do it so its not just sitting. I drive a sedan that gets 30mpg to and from work. I drive over 30 miles one way to work, in really heavy rush hour traffic. It's really hard on cars and on fuel economy, and since I want to keep my truck a long time, I decided to not beat it up by daily driving it (and its meh fuel economy/smaller gas tank size had me going to the pump every other day, vs just once a week, super annoying)

Fully aware of an engine being a big air pump, my other two cars are turbo charged, highly modified and tuned (or on their way to get there). I'm not new to that concept. I do plan on doing some other things to it, like an exhaust manifold, maybe port and polish the heads and lower intake plenum, I haven't looked into options for larger TB's, is that even an option?  My budget is small, I've saved up for wheels, and I am saving up for tires, but I also run a youtube channel and have some $$ set aside for video creation, so this would come from that, and not from  my wheel/tire budget. 

My goal was to add some bling. the air temp difference between where this filter sits and where it draws air in from on a stock box is not going to be that big, a few degrees max. On a turbo charged car, it might make a difference, but I doubt it will on my 98 OHV, I mean the thing already makes so little horsepower and torque for the size of engine that it is, its kinda a joke. (don't get me wrong I LOVE my truck, but the power that size of engine puts out is... just sad). we've hit the summer here in AZ, and my turbo cars with their big intercoolers, and True CAI that take air from out in front of the cars struggle as it is with lag, and building boost. Its almost comical how bad it is. but my NA cars? Meh, they don't care. I'm sure I've lost a few tenths of a second 0-60, but its negligible. 


I ask because I've had cars in the past that an intake like this would screw with the computer/MAF, and the car would run like crap after making any change (I'm looking at you v6 alero) to the intake system. But if its happy to run it, i think it will be fun to have.



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