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|Alright, this is going to be a bit of a drawn out post so, bear with me.
What I carry as of right now is a Remington R1 1911 with a 5" barrel chambered in .45 ACP. My current carry ammunition is .45 ACP standard pressure 230 grain FMJ from GECO.
For a while I wasn't concerned with over penetration, because at the time I figured that if I had to shoot someone to save my own skin, nobody would be standing behind them, therefor who cares. Well, I've been paying a bit more attention to my surroundings, specifically how things are laid out, and I've come to the realization that I need to make some changes.
For example, if I had to shoot someone in my driveway, and that round over-penetrated and continued out through his back, I'd be sending that round into someone's house or fence. Obviously this is bad thing and not what I want.
Well, I found out that finding hollowpoints isn't as easy as I thought it would be. There are plenty of them to pick from, but I also found a very telling chart from lucky gunner. I'll post the link at the bottom of this post.
What I found from the .45 ACP is that the rounds (generally speaking) either expanded very well and penetrated very little (well under the 12-18 FBI standard) or didn't expand at all and acted like FMJs. I also noticed quite a few times that expansion wasn't uniform. Some flattened out nicely and others didn't expand at all.
Now, here's the biggest rub. The ammo that I saw perform the best was +P, which is all well and good, but my 1911 is not rated for +P. Needless to say, what I found didn't give me much faith in .45 hollow points in standard pressure.
Another issue is that with my limited budget, .50 cents per round isn't exactly the most affordable to practice with, and I want to be able to afford to cycle my carry ammo out every so often and also burn through enough of it that I know the gun will reliably feed and cycle with it.
A few of you may see where I'm headed with this. I'm considering going the way of the US military in 1985 and hanging up the Yankee Bigmouth for the black Italian 'wonder-nine', specifically the 92A1.
Allow me to explain why, if you would…
First off, 9mm is much cheaper to practice with. FMJ can be had for .20 or less per round. I think we can all agree that more practice is a good thing. Not only that, but 9mm hollow points also appear to be cheaper. Ballpark that I found was around .30 cents per round, which is close to the price of .45 FMJ.
Second, that same place showed a very different story with 9mm. The 9mm was more consistent across the board. Of course there were a few duds, but most of the ammo tested expanded uniformly, penetrated uniformly and mostly within the 12-18 penetration standard, overall making ammo selection easier with a wider range to choose from.
Third, the 92A1 can hold a lot more than the .45. This one has been done to death so I'll keep it short. With the 1911, I could carry a maximum of 22 rounds. Two spare 7 shot magazines, and 7+1 in the gun. Now, assuming I also carry three magazines, that would give me 52 rounds on my person. Again, two spares at 17 rounds each and 17+1 in the gun. That is a lot of rounds, and I like having a lot of rounds. Would I need them all? Chances are, no I wouldn't. I could probably carry no spares at all and be just fine, but that's not how I roll.
Part of me still prefers .45 over 9mm (likely because 1911 and all), but the advantages I'd get with the 9mm are definitely quite compelling to make the change.
I do realize that the 92A1 isn't my only option for 9mm, but that's the 9mm I was going to buy anyway, so in my eyes, it makes sense. I also realize that the 92 is not a small gun. I held one and fired another, then instantly fell in love. Considering most of the time I open carry OWB, I don't consider that to be an issue, and a cover garment when needed can either be a button-down shirt left open or a jacket, depending on what time of the year it is.
So, those are my thoughts. I'd really appreciate it if anyone here could provide their thoughts as well.
EDIT: Here's the link to the Lucky Gunner Article:
Last edited on Thu Nov 16th, 2017 04:03 am by TheArcticWolf1911
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